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Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
it's completely discredited mate.

I fall into this category on my stance:

"Many personality psychologists consider the MBTI to be a somewhat valid measure of some important personality characteristics but one that has some important limitations," said Michael Ashton, professor of psychology at Brock University in Ontario.

...

Some of the shortcomings of the MBTI stem from the complex, messy nature of human personality. Neat categories of MBTI make personality look clearer and more stable than it really is, according to David Pincus, a professor of psychology at Chapman University in California. Psychologists prefer other tools, namely the Big Five, which assesses personality based on where an individual lies on the spectrums of five traits: agreeableness; conscientiousness; extraversion; openness to experience; and neuroticism. The Big Five model has a better record of scientific validation than the MBTI, experts say.

Still, the MBTI is not entirely useless.

People are drawn to tests like MBTI out of a desire to understand themselves and others. "The four dimensions from which the MBTI types are derived are all useful ones for describing people's personalities," Ashton said. [Can You Learn Anything While You Sleep?

https://www.livescience.com/65513-does-myers-briggs-personality-test-work.html

It's a step above astrology and a step above random guessing. But a step below the Big Five inventory.

Originally posted by Scribble
"my definition" was just from Wikipedia, I posted it to expedite Surt and Jaden's conversation.

That very definition also included the words "The term is ill-defined, having been used in different ways by various self-described "alt-rightists", media commentators, and academics", which basically means the term is kind of meaningless. But memes and white nationalism seem to be pretty key to those who identify as 'alt-right' themselves.

I see so you don't subscribe the the definition you posted... Q. Why post it?
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
They've named people already they think are alt right. You've responded by disagreeing.

The logical next step would be for you to explain what you think constitutes alt right so "they" can name people that fit your definition in order to get a consensus.

So again, are we going with the definition Scribble provided and how many of those stances does someone have to express to be considered alt right?

Can some people be described as having expressed some opinions that align with the alt right?

Could any of the people you say are not alt right be described as having opinions on some issues that align with the definition Scribble provided?

I would be interested in this also.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I see so you don't subscribe the the definition you posted... Q. Why post it?
I literally just said why. awehuhs
Originally posted by Scribble
I posted it to expedite Surt and Jaden's conversation.
Originally posted by Silent Master
What is your definition of alt-right?

Intriguing question

Originally posted by Surtur
Bro, you didn't answer why you didn't challenge them to prove their claims.

Do I need to ask again?

I did answer. I said I didn't even challenge you to prove your claims.

That's 3 times you've asked a question I've already answered.

Not only can you not provide a definition, you're deliberately not saying whether you agree or disagree with the definition Scribble gave.

We both know why. Because the people you say aren't alt right have expressed opinions that fall within that definition.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I did answer. I said I didn't even challenge you to prove your claims.

That's 3 times you've asked a question I've already answered.

Not only can you not provide a definition, you're deliberately not saying whether you agree or disagree with the definition Scribble gave.

We both know why. Because the people you say aren't alt right have expressed opinions that fall within that definition.

But you kinda did challenge me to prove them. In a roundabout way.

Yet you made no peep about their alt right claims.

And that is called HYPOCRISY!

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I did answer. I said I didn't even challenge you to prove your claims.

That's 3 times you've asked a question I've already answered.

Not only can you not provide a definition, you're deliberately not saying whether you agree or disagree with the definition Scribble gave.

We both know why. Because the people you say aren't alt right have expressed opinions that fall within that definition.

"That definition" also clearly states that white nationalism is key to being alt-right, though. Sharing similarities with the broad spread of other stances held by various groups and outlets posited as "alt-right" (which the Wikipedia definition also states isn't well defined anyway) does not make one alt-right.

Example: Fascists believe in limiting free speech. But just because one believes in limiting free speech, does not make one fascist, as fascism is more than just limiting free speech. Many other groups believe in limiting free speech (communists, socialists, etc.), but that does not make them fascists any more than it would make fascists into communists just because they believe in limiting free speech too.

Originally posted by Surtur
But you kinda did challenge me to prove them. In a roundabout way.

Yet you made no peep about their alt right claims.

But I didn't. You just think I am because you're constantly in the mindset that everyone is out to get you.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
But I didn't. You just think I am because you're constantly in the mindset that everyone is out to get you.

Right, you know what? Okay. The bottom line is you didn't say shit over their claims, just over my claims people weren't alt right. That got a response from you.

You don't wanna say why? Okay, we move on.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
But I didn't. You just think I am because you're constantly in the mindset that everyone is out to get you.
that is certainly in Surts mindset.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
that is certainly in Surts mindset.

I get why you've got his back, he lacks the sac to call out your shit. A good little drone 👆

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
So are we going with the definition scribble has provided?

If so then does a person need to proscribe to all those attributes to be considered alt right?

Is 1 enough to define them as alt right or at least expressing some alt right opinions?

What is your definition of alt-right?

Originally posted by Silent Master
What is your definition of alt-right?

Just sit back and wait until whirly or bash tell him the definition, then he can answer.

Originally posted by Silent Master
What is your definition of alt-right?

I'll just play Surt games and say "ask Surt...why aren't you asking Surt? waahhh waahhhh etc"

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I'll just play Surt games and say "ask Surt...why aren't you asking Surt? waahhh waahhhh etc"

Ackshually he's been pretty consistent, unlike you bro.

But the funny thing is I already answered.

Originally posted by Surtur
Just sit back and wait until whirly or bash tell him the definition, then he can answer.

Best part? It's true 🙂

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I'll just play Surt games and say "ask Surt...why aren't you asking Surt? waahhh waahhhh etc"

To surt and jaden. what is your definition of alt-right?

Originally posted by Surtur
Ackshually he's been pretty consistent, unlike you bro.

But the funny thing is I already answered.

Best part? It's true 🙂

I'm still waiting for your definition, let alone there's.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I'm still waiting for your definition, let alone there's.

I'm waiting for you to be consistent.

I'm gonna be waiting a long time, I guess

Originally posted by Silent Master
What is your definition of alt-right?
On a serious level, I'm finding this 'debate' hard to understand. Why is Surtur's own definition of alt-right important?