Islam vs Christianity: Which is morally superior?

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
if that's what you think then you're not a real hardcore muslim

cause the real hardcore muslims have beard patrols. proven and documented in both Afghanistan under taliban rule and Iraq under Isis rule. And, if you don't have a beard/can't grow a beard, you're basically considered a woman to them thus rape might (will) ensue. And that, my friend, is not a fate I want. Not at all. I swear I don't.

Who is asking you to migrate to Afghanistan? That place is a mess.

I've had a few offers.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
I've had a few offers.

I tend to avoid all -istans as a sort of general rule.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
The so-called "Free Society" have its share of imperfections and issues - this is my point.

1. Gender equality is good. I fully support this.

2. Freedom of speech is just a "narrative." We are responsible for our views and their repercussions.

3. Freedom of press sounds good as long as you are not on its receiving end. I am an advocate of "responsible press."

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/nov/09/balance-between-free-responsible-press

I do not condone homosexuality, cultural objectification of women and cohabitation - these are unhealthy practices with significant implications for the fabric of society in the long-term.

S_W, do you know who Maajid Nawaz is? You'd probably like him. He's very bravely trying to reform the Islamic Faith. He's a former radical Muslim turned activist basically. He's the kind of voice that needs to be raised up. He did a book with Sam Harris: Islam and the Future of Tolerance: A Dialogue. I believe it's also available as an audiobook which is what it was really intended to be, a conversation. Sam Harris has a free sample of the book on one of his Podcasts. His Podcast is called "Waking Up," and it's #23.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
if that's what you think then you're not a real hardcore muslim

cause the real hardcore muslims have beard patrols. proven and documented in both Afghanistan under taliban rule and Iraq under Isis rule. And, if you don't have a beard/can't grow a beard, you're basically considered a woman to them thus rape might (will) ensue. And that, my friend, is not a fate I want. Not at all. I swear I don't.

Haha... I can't tell if you're serious or not. 😂

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
2. Freedom of speech is just a "narrative." We are responsible for our views and their repercussions.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
S_W, do you know who Maajid Nawaz is? You'd probably like him. He's very bravely trying to reform the Islamic Faith. He's a former radical Muslim turned activist basically. He's the kind of voice that needs to be raised up. He did a book with Sam Harris: Islam and the Future of Tolerance: A Dialogue. I believe it's also available as an audiobook which is what it was really intended to be, a conversation. Sam Harris has a free sample of the book on one of his Podcasts. His Podcast is called "Waking Up," and it's #23

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
S_W, do you know who Maajid Nawaz is? You'd probably like him. He's very bravely trying to reform the Islamic Faith. He's a former radical Muslim turned activist basically. He's the kind of voice that needs to be raised up. He did a book with Sam Harris: Islam and the Future of Tolerance: A Dialogue. I believe it's also available as an audiobook which is what it was really intended to be, a conversation. Sam Harris has a free sample of the book on one of his Podcasts. His Podcast is called "Waking Up," and it's #23.

Thanks for the pointer.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
The so-called "Free Society" have its share of imperfections and issues - this is my point.

1. Gender equality is good. I fully support this.

2. Freedom of speech is just a "narrative." We are responsible for our views and their repercussions.

3. Freedom of press sounds good as long as you are not on its receiving end. I am an advocate of "responsible press."

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/nov/09/balance-between-free-responsible-press

I do not condone homosexuality, cultural objectification of women and cohabitation - these are unhealthy practices with significant implications for the fabric of society in the long-term.

If I drew a picture of Muhammad, would that personally offend you?

Originally posted by Surtur
The acts you just mentioned...in the modern day which religion do you think condones those acts more?

Both.

And before you trigger-out because I didn't answer with "ISLAM!!!11!", might I remind you that the Bosnian ethnic cleansing wasn't all that long ago.

Christianity hands down.

Why wasn't this thread a poll?

Originally posted by Robtard
Both.

And before you trigger-out because I didn't answer with "ISLAM!!!11!", might I remind you that the Bosnian ethnic cleansing wasn't all that long ago.

Lol so just to be clear; they both equally condone those acts? As Spock would say: fascinating.

Originally posted by Robtard
Both.

And before you trigger-out because I didn't answer with "ISLAM!!!11!", might I remind you that the Bosnian ethnic cleansing wasn't all that long ago.

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol so just to be clear; they both equally condone those acts? As Spock would say: fascinating.

Rob, for some reason you are ignoring the fact that Christianity has Jesus who sort of did away with much of the OT law. So therefore there is no need for Christians to go around beheading, killing, raping, etc because Jesus will return and people who haven't accepted Jesus will get their just desserts in the afterlife. Islam has no such comparable figure. Islam is full-on bloodshed and savagery through and through. In Islam, Muslims are "strongly encouraged" to carry out violent commands in the name of Allah and his prophet. Jesus makes no such commands. He has some varying moods, but he never condones such violence. Does "turn the other cheek" sound familiar?

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Rob, for some reason you are ignoring the fact that Christianity has Jesus who sort of did away with much of the OT law. So therefore there is no need for Christians to go around beheading, killing, raping, etc because Jesus will return and people who haven't accepted Jesus will get their just desserts in the afterlife. Islam has no such comparable figure. Islam is full-on bloodshed and savagery through and through. In Islam, Muslims are "strongly encouraged" to carry out violent commands in the name of Allah and his prophet. Jesus makes no such commands. He has some varying moods, but he never condones such violence. Does "turn the other cheek" sound familiar?

Jesus did no such thing. To the contrary, Jesus states specifically that he did not come to abolish the Old Testament law whatsoever. He told his followers to take up swords, and that he came to turn father against son and mother against daughter. The same New Testament that says to turn the other cheek also says that slaves should obey their masters even if their masters beat them. This peaceful Christianity is as big a fiction as the entire religion.

^ There's a lot of contradictory stuff in the Bible, yes. But Islam doesn't have so much contradictory stuff to allow for as much diversity of interpretation.

Could Jesus REALLY come out and say "I abolish the old testament"? Do you guys remember the OT God? He'd roast Jesus alive if he talked shit. Make him yearn for the days of being crucified and the utter horror that was his 3 day nap(the horror, the cave was damp and lacked wifi!)

But even without that, how can anyone say both religions equally condone this abhorrent behavior? In the here and now?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Jesus did no such thing. To the contrary, Jesus states specifically that he did not come to abolish the Old Testament law whatsoever. He told his followers to take up swords...

Words attributed to Jesus in the Bible and how he's interpreted in light of all the reformation and modern spin that Christianity has undergone are two completely different things. That's why I said he had "various moods."

Look, you don't have to convince me that Christianity is filled with barbaric bullshit. I hate the religion with a passion. But you'll have a hard time convincing me that it's just as easy (or even possible) to interpret Islam as a mild, benign, peaceful religion. It's simply not. At its core it's not.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Words attributed to Jesus in the Bible and how he's interpreted in light of all the reformation and modern spin that Christianity has undergone are two completely different things. That's why I said he had "various moods."

Look, you don't have to convince me that Christianity is filled with barbaric bullshit. I hate the religion with a passion. But you'll have a hard time convincing me that it's just as easy (or even possible) to interpret Islam as a mild, benign, peaceful religion. It's simply not. At its core it's not.

And yet millions of American Muslims have found a way. Meanwhile, African Christians are mutilating genitals and burning people alive.

👆

And more besides. What reality is Leech living in?