Islam vs Christianity: Which is morally superior?

Started by Patient_Leech7 pages
Originally posted by Afro Cheese
Here you miss the point. The historical context is precisely why the text contains passages that apply during wartime, which are the violent passages in question.

It doesn't sound it's just for wartime to me. It's to spread Islam, the one true religion. "Fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the worship will all be for Allah Alone."

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
I'm not denying the connection. I'm saying that there is an agenda on behalf of some to promote that violent image. Some of them are Muslim terrorists promoting actual violence, and others are critics of the religion who want to emphasize its violent side. Both will tend to overstate the extent to which an honest reading of the Quran promotes endless holy war by honing in on the passages that support this narrative and ignoring the rest. There's nothing productive or honest about that.

😂 I don't think it can be overemphasized. It definitely doesn't get stressed enough, at least not in the mainstream media. Liberals are too afraid of "Islamophobia," so they don't approach the problem honestly. I honestly was unaware of how horrible the Islamic texts are for a long time. I think a lot of people just don't know. Sure, there's a balance that needs to be struck in dealing with the issue because many millions of Muslims are peaceful, and live by many of our liberal values, but that's not because that's the core doctrine of Islam, it's in spite of it. Many, many other millions of Muslims greatly oppose liberal values vital to a free society and people need to look honestly at what the texts are preaching. It's not tolerance and acceptance of women, homosexuals, and free-thinkers; it's subjugation and totalitarian theocracy, whether achieved through political policy or violence. Either one is undesirable.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
It doesn't sound it's just for wartime to me. It's to spread Islam, the one true religion. "Fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the worship will all be for Allah Alone."
No, that quote is specifically referring to the wartime that the early Muslims endured. I know it doesn't "sound like" that when you quote it out of context. That was my entire point.

😂 I don't think it can be overemphasized.
The fact that you would even say something like this basically illustrates my point perfectly.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
No, that quote is specifically referring to the wartime that the early Muslims endured...

...in spreading their theocracy.

How familiar are you with the early history of Islam?

Somewhat. But again, it doesn't take a history degree to see where the problem is stemming from. Just look at Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, or Iran.

I wasn't asking for credentials. Just how well you know the story of how Islam was created.

I know the general outline.

The last 20-30 seconds are the most important in terms of what the muslim admits:

YouTube video

I'm converting to Islam. Richard Dawkins' fascist Liberal views is one of the reasons.

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm converting to Islam. Richard Dawkins' fascist Liberal views is one of the reasons.

But Rob...bacon. Come on now. Bacon.

YouTube video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61g2-EVJ-mo

Edit: Also, I'm Jewish. Yes, there are Black Jews. I know. Crazy.

I'm gonna help you.

YouTube video

Umm. I posted it already, both view-able and clickable link. So?

It's why when I click the video it says an error occurred, right?

Click your video(not the link, the actual video). tell me if it works.

TBF, you have time to edit. Hurry.

[youtube]61g2-EVJ-mo[/joutube]

Change the J in youtube in the last part to a y. It will work. I changed it to a J so you could see the actual thing you need to put.

Cos user error? Both work for me, son

Dude you clearly just edited it lol.

I have proof you did, but don't make me show it. I still have you original post open in another tab and quoted. Will you admit it or do I need to embarrass you? Up to you.

I flat out have your original post and your edited one both open and quoted.

Um, I edited in the "I'm Jewish part" yes.

Also, I'm not intersted in your quote altering games. Look, I can do it to:

Originally posted by Surtur
Dude you clearly just edited it lol. I also like smelling my own farts.

I have proof you did, it's called my imagination, but don't make me show it. I still have you original post open in another tab and quoted which I can edit. Will you admit it or do I need to embarrass you? Up to you.

ps Someone give me more attention!!1!

Dude, you edited your link. Your first post had the entire link,but when you ost a video from youtube you do not include the entire link, that is not how you do it, it is why your original think didn't work.. You seriously will not admit it? I don't get it. People get the youtube linking wrong all the time.

Originally posted by Surtur
Dude, you edited your link. Your first post had the entire link. You seriously will not admit it? I don't get it. People get the youtube linking wrong all the time.

Maybe plebs do. Not Robtard. Nope.

Originally posted by Robtard
Maybe plebs do. Not Robtard. Nope.

Lol...but you did.