Zod (MoS) vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
That particular blade got incinerated by Ares. But she had a new one by the modern day, in BvS, and is again shown with a sword and shield (along with the rest of her normal gear) at multiple points in the Justice League trailer. So, based on consistent showings, her standard gear is sword, shield, lasso, bracers and armour.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Her original sword was destroyed, however at some point she got a replacement for it as shown in bvs.

But even with her modern day sword, it's not like she was ripping up Doomsday with it (the only opponent we've seen it used against, and comparable to Zod in terms of abilities).

Originally posted by Darth Thor
But even with her modern day sword, it's not like she was ripping up Doomsday with it (the only opponent we've seen it used against, and comparable to Zod in terms of abilities).

She literally cut one of his hands off with it. Hell, a slash to Doomsday's leg briefly took him down to one knee. That sword + her strength was very capable of damaging Doomsday.

Originally posted by h1a8
She can deflect energy. She is super fast in combat (possibly faster than Zod).
She lifted a tank. She has an unbreakable lasso. She has a repelling force field.
She is highly skilled. She has a sword that could kill Zod. She has a shield.

Whether these are impressive or not, it's great evidence supporting her winning.

Yeah, she can win. But she won't, because Zod has every physical advantage and won't hold back. He's also more versatile. Diana got pinned down by machine gun fire, a super speed barrage by Zod was **** her shit up.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Didn't Zod lose to someone that had zero known combat training?

Superman would fold Diana like lawn chair, lets not kid ourselves. Clark has been on Earth for 33 years and absorbed much more solar radiation than Zod.

Zod stomps. There is a huge power gap between them. Zod losing to Supes is hardly a bad showing considering the fact that Supes would stomp WW too.

I'll need a refresher here but didn't WW struggle pretty hard with a single Themyscirian until right before she left? The same Themyscirian that was killed by some WW troops? WW just doesn't operate on the same level as people like Supes and Zod yet.

Power gap?

Diana was easily fighting with Doomsday, and tanked everything he hit her with with a smile if she even got hit. She was strong enough to knock him around with her shield, strong enough to block his arm with her sword before cutting it off, and strong enough to restrain him with her lasso while he was absorbing power until Superman and Batman used the K-Nite on him.

She also has her bracers(easily shown blocking heat vision, reflecting energy back and making a shockwave) as well as her shield(does the same thing).

And now she has access to her God Mode and speed far above what Zod ever showed, as well as onscreen higher combat experience than him as she's been fighting since she was a child and is like 70-80 during BvS.

Yes, WW was pinned down by a machinegun, but that was before she learned to access her true power.

Zod is not stomping in this fight.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
I'll need a refresher here but didn't WW struggle pretty hard with a single Themyscirian until right before she left? The same Themyscirian that was killed by some WW troops? WW just doesn't operate on the same level as people like Supes and Zod yet.

No, she didn't. She fought multiple other Amazons and kicked their asses, then immediately fought Antiope, who briefly managed to hold her own until Diana stopped holding back, at which point Antiope got disarmed very quickly, but then blindsided Diana when she looked over to her mother, only to get put down for the count when Diana discovers her bracelet bash shockwave. And Antiope literally dived in front of a bullet to shield Diana, because Amazons aren't bulletproof (which in Diana's case is kind of dumb, considering the hits she shrugs off during the final battle). And she only grew in power from there. You just have to compare that fight and the final fight against Ares to see the difference.

Diana's feats only begin to matter once she leaves the island, as on it she was figuring out her powers and was much lower level. But the only way we should debate her is from her fight with Doomsday and Ares as that is her standard mode and most powerful. Not the fledgling still finding her feet in the beginning.

People love to low ball to suit their argument.

Batman and Superman have always had some of the worst Fanboys out there, they just refuse to be unbiased when discussing anything about them.

I would say OPM has the worst at the moment.

Originally posted by KingD19
Power gap?

Diana was easily fighting with Doomsday, and tanked everything he hit her with with a smile if she even got hit. She was strong enough to knock him around with her shield, strong enough to block his arm with her sword before cutting it off, and strong enough to restrain him with her lasso while he was absorbing power until Superman and Batman used the K-Nite on him.

She also has her bracers(easily shown blocking heat vision, reflecting energy back and making a shockwave) as well as her shield(does the same thing).

And now she has access to her God Mode and speed far above what Zod ever showed, as well as onscreen higher combat experience than him as she's been fighting since she was a child and is like 70-80 during BvS.

She wasn't "easily" fighting him. She was getting kicked around. If Superman and Batman weren't there to take the heat off her Doomsday would have killed her.

She only managed to restrain him with a magic lasso and with help from Kryptonite, she's not in his league when it comes to strength.

The shockwave from the bracers didn't really do anything to DD. And given that Kryptonians can take nukes I doubt it will do much to Zod either.

Her one speed feat is not above Faora and Superman's best speed feats and we know Zod is capable of hanging with Superman no problem. Especially since Zod has flight.

Originally posted by Psychotron
She wasn't "easily" fighting him. She was getting kicked around. If Superman and Batman weren't there to take the heat off her Doomsday would have killed her.

She only managed to restrain him with a magic lasso and with help from Kryptonite, she's not in his league when it comes to strength.

The shockwave from the bracers didn't really do anything to DD. And given that Kryptonians can take nukes I doubt it will do much to Zod either.

Her one speed feat is not above Faora and Superman's best speed feats and we know Zod is capable of hanging with Superman no problem. Especially since Zod has flight.

Did you watch the fight? She got knocked back twice, but each time was completely okay. She was even smiling and laughing about it. And she knocked Doomsday off his feet with no problem at all. As well as outright stopped his swing with her sword. I'd say bashing him off his feet with her shield, slashing his leg open, chopping his arm off, etc... was doing a pretty good job. She did 70% of the damage to Doomsday.

The lasso is only unbreakable and compels you to tell the truth, causing a burning sensation if you resist. So it was all her strength that kept him restrained. And she was holding him a fairly long time before Bruce even fired the grenade.

That regular shockwave wouldn't do much, but she's shown she can absorb energy into her bracers and launch it back(what she did to Ares), and that would mess Zod up as Kryptonians clearly aren't immune to their own heat vision.

If anything, Diana looked more impressive than Superman.

As for her speed, she has several "teleportation" feats where she moves a good distance so fast she is just instantly somewhere else. She did it to Ares twice, and did it to Doomsday as well. And her scene at the end of her movie had her blitzing all those soldiers at super speed. She's faster than Faora.

Originally posted by KingD19
Or magical bracers that would, I dunno, reflect his heat vision back at him, but magnified.

the magnification was shown to only work on Ares' godly energy so far, she basically absorbed Doomsdays heat vision.

her slamming the bracelets together to create that crazy shockwave is something she can do at will and requires no energy absorption as seen when she fights Antiope.

in fact theres not one moment in that fight where DD gets a direct hit on Diana; she's always blocking with her sword or shield so highly skilled yes; just as durable as a kryptonian? hasn't been shown yet

Originally posted by KingD19
Did you watch the fight? She got knocked back twice, but each time was completely okay. She was even smiling and laughing about it. And she knocked Doomsday off his feet with no problem at all. As well as outright stopped his swing with her sword. I'd say bashing him off his feet with her shield, slashing his leg open, chopping his arm off, etc... was doing a pretty good job. She did 70% of the damage to Doomsday.

The lasso is only unbreakable and compels you to tell the truth, causing a burning sensation if you resist. So it was all her strength that kept him restrained. And she was holding him a fairly long time before Bruce even fired the grenade.

That regular shockwave wouldn't do much, but she's shown she can absorb energy into her bracers and launch it back(what she did to Ares), and that would mess Zod up as Kryptonians clearly aren't immune to their own heat vision.

If anything, Diana looked more impressive than Superman.

As for her speed, she has several "teleportation" feats where she moves a good distance so fast she is just instantly somewhere else. She did it to Ares twice, and did it to Doomsday as well. And her scene at the end of her movie had her blitzing all those soldiers at super speed. She's faster than Faora.

Zod would fight smarter than Doomsday and use his versatile powerset a lot more than a brute like DD would. Also, she only knocked DD off his feet by bashing his calf when he was distracted by Superman. The other time she slashed his leg, he was also distracted by Clark. Hardly that impressive.

Except she wrapped it around him when he was in the middle of his power evolution thing and wasn't really resisting, then immediately he got hit with K-nite. Even after that, it took all her might to hold him.

They're not seriously damaged by it either. Superman's HV didn't didn't do much to Faora and Nam-Ek. Assuming she hits Zod with his own HV once he won't fall for it again.

She really didn't. Superman was BFRing DD on his own before the nuke, while Diana needed Superman's aid to land most of her blows, aside from the arm chop, which just led to her getting battered by Doomsday in response. It's actually telling that Superman outperformed Diana despite being hit by K-nite and a nuke before the fight.

Both blitzed groups of soldiers, but the difference is that Faora was operating at normal levels, while Diana was bloodlusted. It's also impossible to measure who was outright faster due to the way the scenes were shot. However, we know Superman is fast enough to travel from the Arctic to Metropolis in seconds, and we know Zod is on his level. That trumps Diana's speed feats by a healthy margin IMO.

Off-topic - but does anyone find Superman snapping Zod's neck like that complete horsesh1t?

If they can't even break each other's skin with their strongest blows (i.e. draw blood), how is he strong enough to break Zod's bone so easily - and only in that single, final instance?

Their durability scales way higher than their strength, relative to a normal human.

Originally posted by Placidity
Off-topic - but does anyone find Superman snapping Zod's neck like that complete horsesh1t?

If they can't even break each other's skin with their strongest blows (i.e. draw blood), how is he strong enough to break Zod's bone so easily - and only in that single, final instance?

Their durability scales way higher than their strength, relative to a normal human.

Superman holding back isn't exactly new.

Originally posted by Placidity
Off-topic - but does anyone find Superman snapping Zod's neck like that complete horsesh1t?

If they can't even break each other's skin with their strongest blows (i.e. draw blood), how is he strong enough to break Zod's bone so easily - and only in that single, final instance?

Their durability scales way higher than their strength, relative to a normal human.

This is a problem with a lot of DC movies. Their heroes still have perfect hair at the end of a fight.

Originally posted by Placidity
Off-topic - but does anyone find Superman snapping Zod's neck like that complete horsesh1t?

If they can't even break each other's skin with their strongest blows (i.e. draw blood), how is he strong enough to break Zod's bone so easily - and only in that single, final instance?

Their durability scales way higher than their strength, relative to a normal human.

Does someone die when they punch each other in the face, or do they die from a neck snap?