Zod (MoS) vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by Psychotron
Yeah, she can win. But she won't, because Zod has every physical advantage and won't hold back. He's also more versatile. Diana got pinned down by machine gun fire, a super speed barrage by Zod was **** her shit up.

Superman would fold Diana like lawn chair, lets not kid ourselves. Clark has been on Earth for 33 years and absorbed much more solar radiation than Zod.

What is Zod going to do if she cuts a limb off, cut his head off, run him through with the sword? What's Zod going to do if she ties him up with the lasso? What's Zod going to do if she crosses her bracers?

Zod isn't much stronger than Diana and is certainly not faster in combat. Her teleporting feat is greater than any speed movement feat made by Zod in combat. Plus she has the reflexes to block multiple bullets at close range and energy beams from DD.

Zod would get comboed to ko, neck snapped, kill with the sword, or killed after being tied with the lasso.

Originally posted by h1a8
What is Zod going to do if she cuts a limb off, cut his head off, run him through with the sword? What's Zod going to do if she ties him up with the lasso? What's Zod going to do if she crosses her bracers?

Zod isn't much stronger than Diana and is certainly not faster in combat. Her teleporting feat is greater than any speed movement feat made by Zod in combat. Plus she has the reflexes to block multiple bullets at close range and energy beams from DD.

Zod would get comboed to ko, neck snapped, kill with the sword, or killed after being tied with the lasso.

What would Diana do if Zod just restrains her hands and heat visions her to death? She's never tied up anyone of Zod's caliber with the lasso. Doomsday wasn't resisting so it doesn't count. Zod would probably laugh if she crossed her bracers since that shit didn't even hurt Batman, who was literally just a few feet away from her.

Zod is definitely much stronger than Diana. He was strong enough to match Superman, and you know his feats. What's Diana's best strength feat, lifting a WW1 tank? She's way outclassed here. Superman is faster than Diana and Zod had absolutely no trouble keeping up with him.

In a feminist's wildest dreams. In reality she kneels before Zod.

Originally posted by Psychotron
She's never tied up anyone of Zod's caliber with the lasso. Doomsday wasn't resisting so it doesn't count.

ROTFL. Dude, if you're going to be biased at least be smart about it. This ^ is so biased you're pretty much trolling at this point.

Yeah. She never lassoed anyone on Zod's caliber. She's lassoed Doomsday who is higher on the ladder.

And saying he wasn't resisting is bullshit. If he wasn't resisting, why was she fully extended against that barrier to hold him in place? If he wasn't resisting she could've just stood there.

Originally posted by Psychotron
What would Diana do if Zod just restrains her hands and heat visions her to death? She's never tied up anyone of Zod's caliber with the lasso. Doomsday wasn't resisting so it doesn't count. Zod would probably laugh if she crossed her bracers since that shit didn't even hurt Batman, who was literally just a few feet away from her.

Zod is definitely much stronger than Diana. He was strong enough to match Superman, and you know his feats. What's Diana's best strength feat, lifting a WW1 tank? She's way outclassed here. Superman is faster than Diana and Zod had absolutely no trouble keeping up with him.

In a feminist's wildest dreams. In reality she kneels before Zod.

Diana is strong enough to hurt Zod. She can even one shot him with the sword. Strength differences is meaningless. She is faster in combat and much more skilled. She has kill and has weapons. This more than makes up for the strength deficit.

People are ignoring the fairly significant advantage Zod's flight gives him.

Diana is a completely grounded fighter, but Zod is capable of moving himself in any direction by thought. If he takes Diana off her feet, this combined with his superior physical abilities are going to win him the fight pretty handily. Diana would have to kill Zod very quickly to win this fight, and I'm frankly not convinced she could.

Originally posted by NemeBro
People are ignoring the fairly significant advantage Zod's flight gives him.

Diana is a completely grounded fighter, but Zod is capable of moving himself in any direction by thought. If he takes Diana off her feet, this combined with his superior physical abilities are going to win him the fight pretty handily. Diana would have to kill Zod very quickly to win this fight, and I'm frankly not convinced she could.

Don't be so sure. Faora couldn't fly but she was doing perfectly fine against Superman if it wasn't for her helmet weakness. Diana has shown the ability to jump just as powerfully as the kryptonians.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Don't be so sure. Faora couldn't fly but she was doing perfectly fine against Superman if it wasn't for her helmet weakness. Diana has shown the ability to jump just as powerfully as the kryptonians.

Yeah she was doing so well she had to be bailed out by Namek, lol.

Even before that, she was only able to handle Superman in the iHop during the close quarters fight due to her superior hand to hand training and Superman's lack of space to use his flight significantly.

Once Superman made full use of his powers she was being tossed around, and even during their double team of him Superman literally was able to drag Faora helplessly through the air before Namek helped her again.

Originally posted by h1a8
She's faster than him and more skilled. Also you have to consider character. Zod never tried to restrain Superman and hv him.
Crossing her bracers is more of a defensive option (not offensive).

Diana is strong enough to hurt Zod. She can even one shot him with the sword. Strength differences is meaningless. She is faster in combat and much more skilled. She has kill and has weapons. This more than makes up for the strength deficit.

Go ahead and prove she's faster.

Zod never tried to restrain Superman because Superman is just as strong, likely stronger than Zod. Diana is not.

Those bracers cover only a small area, what if Zod aims for her shins, for example? Just because she can block much smaller and slower things like bullets doesn't mean she can block every single HV beam fired at her.

"Strength difference is meaningless" - someone who's never been in a fight.
Like I said, go ahead and prove she's faster than Superman or Faora because Zod had no trouble hanging with Clark.

It's nice that she has weapons and all, but Zod's flight and ranged attacks more than make up for it. Superman's more versatile power set allowed him to hang with Faora and Nam-Ek at the same time, and dismiss them individually despite both of them being physically equal to him and more skilled.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Go ahead and prove she's faster.

Zod never tried to restrain Superman because Superman is just as strong, likely stronger than Zod. Diana is not.

Those bracers cover only a small area, what if Zod aims for her shins, for example? Just because she can block much smaller and slower things like bullets doesn't mean she can block every single HV beam fired at her.

"Strength difference is meaningless" - someone who's never been in a fight.
Like I said, go ahead and prove she's faster than Superman or Faora because Zod had no trouble hanging with Clark.

It's nice that she has weapons and all, but Zod's flight and ranged attacks more than make up for it. Superman's more versatile power set allowed him to hang with Faora and Nam-Ek at the same time, and dismiss them individually despite both of them being physically equal to him and more skilled.

Diana is faster than Clark in battle. Her reflexes are better (by feats) too.
The proof is her teleporting movements in battle. This is faster than anything Superman or Zod has shown. Her blocking bullets at close range and blocking DD's HV is a better reaction feat than any of Zod's.

When she cross her bracers it creates a shield that covers the front of her entire body.

She can just teleport and kill Zod with the sword or simply tie him up with the lasso.

Originally posted by NemeBro
People are ignoring the fairly significant advantage Zod's flight gives him.

Diana is a completely grounded fighter, but Zod is capable of moving himself in any direction by thought. If he takes Diana off her feet, this combined with his superior physical abilities are going to win him the fight pretty handily. Diana would have to kill Zod very quickly to win this fight, and I'm frankly not convinced she could.

And you are forgetting that Diana can cross her bracers at any time.

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Originally posted by h1a8
Diana is faster than Clark in battle. Her reflexes are better (by feats) too.
The proof is her teleporting movements in battle. This is faster than anything Superman or Zod has shown. Her blocking bullets at close range and blocking DD's HV is a better reaction feat than any of Zod's.

When she cross her bracers it creates a shield that covers the front of her entire body.

She can just teleport and kill Zod with the sword or simply tie him up with the lasso.

Lmao, this is the dumbest shit I've read all day and I spent half of it on bodybuilding.com.

Her reflexes are not faster than, Clark for starters. He would literally smash into every mountain or building he came across while flying if that was the case, and his flight is far faster than anything WW has done. Superman also took out that terrorist in a split second while making sure no harm came to Lois despite the massive force of his attack, that's better speed precision than anything Wondie has done.

Bullshit, why does she even need a shield if she can just do that?

"She can just teleport". Kys, seriously.

Originally posted by h1a8
She can deflect energy. She is super fast in combat (possibly faster than Zod).
She lifted a tank. She has an unbreakable lasso. She has a repelling force field.
She is highly skilled. She has a sword that could kill Zod. She has a shield.

Whether these are impressive or not, it's great evidence supporting her winning.

I don't quite follow your logic here. The evidence would only be great if it was impressive enough to show she could win. Yet you say it doesn't matter if it's impressive. What does that even mean?

Anyways, I'm not saying she loses, but saying "she lifted a tank" is laughable in comparison to the Kryptonians strength level in the movies. They are far above lifting tanks.

They were demolishing buildings with their strength and heat vision. I know I know, she can deflect energy, but it's not a passive ability. She has to actually put her arms in a specific formation, correct? So if Zod is physically fighting her and she is trying to dodge his hits, etc. and he decides to use heat vision at the same time...what do you feel happens?

Superman was at least durable enough to get near that gravity beam, right? Even though it was weakening him. He also survived a nuke. I know, he didn't just shrug it off, but I'm saying his body was not physically destroyed by it.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Lmao, this is the dumbest shit I've read all day and I spent half of it on bodybuilding.com.

Her reflexes are not faster than, Clark for starters. He would literally smash into every mountain or building he came across while flying if that was the case, and his flight is far faster than anything WW has done. Superman also took out that terrorist in a split second while making sure no harm came to Lois despite the massive force of his attack, that's better speed precision than anything Wondie has done.

Bullshit, why does she even need a shield if she can just do that?

"She can just teleport". Kys, seriously.

Reflexes aren't measured by speed. They are measured by time. You have to have faster reflexes in order to block a bullet from 10 ft away than to be traveling at 100 times the speed of a bullet and be a mile away from a mountain.

What you are saying is not a feat. The faster Clark travels then the more the distance he needs in front of him. He can't travel at the speed of sound inside an average size house for example. If you disagree then prove it with a feat.

The terrorist feat is garbage in comparison to blocking a bullet at similar distances.

She doesn't teleport I think. She just moved so fast that it appeared that she teleported. Superman never did this. We have seen him move, even if it was a blur.

I guess you didn't see WW. Because you would know that a forcefield is created when she crosses her braces. In comics, this is called the Aegis shield.

Originally posted by Surtur
I don't quite follow your logic here. The evidence would only be great if it was impressive enough to show she could win. Yet you say it doesn't matter if it's impressive. What does that even mean?

Anyways, I'm not saying she loses, but saying "she lifted a tank" is laughable in comparison to the Kryptonians strength level in the movies. They are far above lifting tanks.

They were demolishing buildings with their strength and heat vision. I know I know, she can deflect energy, but it's not a passive ability. She has to actually put her arms in a specific formation, correct? So if Zod is physically fighting her and she is trying to dodge his hits, etc. and he decides to use heat vision at the same time...what do you feel happens?

Superman was at least durable enough to get near that gravity beam, right? Even though it was weakening him. He also survived a nuke. I know, he didn't just shrug it off, but I'm saying his body was not physically destroyed by it.

A man lifting 1000lbs is more impressive than a guy shooting a gun. But we all know the guy with the gun will win if they started 30 feet apart.

Strength is irrelevant if one character can one shot the other. WW can kill with a single blow of the sword. She can lasso tie them up. Them being stronger is irrelevant.

WW is faster, she can kill Zod the moment the bell rings if she wants. She doesn't have to sit there and defend against Zod all day. That's silly. Zod will have trouble even following her in order to attack.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Lmao, this is the dumbest shit I've read all day and I spent half of it on bodybuilding.com.

😂 😆 I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with either h1 or you, Psychotron, but I feel you on the bodybuilding.com, brah.

Also, I'm guessing WW gets some big upgrades in her solo film? The speed blitzing scene is the one I've heard the most about in terms of best action scene in the film and making her seem way more uber in the way of feats/fighting capability.

Originally posted by h1a8
Impressive is a matter of opinion. Determining who wins has nothing to do with someone's opinion of what's impressive.

A man lifting 1000lbs is more impressive than a guy shooting a gun. But we all know the guy with the gun will win if they started 30 feet apart.

Strength is irrelevant if one character can one shot the other. WW can kill with a single blow of the sword. She can lasso tie them up. Them being stronger is irrelevant.

WW is faster, she can kill Zod the moment the bell rings if she wants. She doesn't have to sit there and defend against Zod all day. That's silly. Zod will have trouble even following her in order to attack.

Lol wtf? Did you drop some bath salts before you posted? You legit saw the WW movie and came away thinking she can kill Zod the MOMENT the bell rings?

Why did you bring up lifting 1000 lbs vs a gun? This makes no actual sense. Kryptonians have actual strength feats above tank lifting. Plus flight, heat vision, and durability.

Also you do need impressive feats to defeat frickin Zod lol. This isn't some street leveler you are dealing with.

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol wtf? Did you drop some bath salts before you posted? You legit saw the WW movie and came away thinking she can kill Zod the MOMENT the bell rings?

Why did you bring up lifting 1000 lbs vs a gun? This makes no actual sense. Kryptonians have actual strength feats above tank lifting. Plus flight, heat vision, and durability.

Also you do need impressive feats to defeat frickin Zod lol. This isn't some street leveler you are dealing with.

The analogy is Zod can lift 1000lb and WW has the gun.
She has faster combat speed. She has a sword. She can slit his throat or impale him instantly. You are falsely assuming she will be operating at slow speeds instead of instant speeds in this fight.

Instant speeds LOL!!!