Originally posted by h1a8
Reflexes aren't measured by speed. They are measured by time. You have to have faster reflexes in order to block a bullet from 10 ft away than to be traveling at 100 times the speed of a bullet and be a mile away from a mountain.What you are saying is not a feat. The faster Clark travels then the more the distance he needs in front of him. He can't travel at the speed of sound inside an average size house for example. If you disagree then prove it with a feat.
The terrorist feat is garbage in comparison to blocking a bullet at similar distances.
She doesn't teleport I think. She just moved so fast that it appeared that she teleported. Superman never did this. We have seen him move, even if it was a blur.
I guess you didn't see WW. Because you would know that a forcefield is created when she crosses her braces. In comics, this is called the Aegis shield.
Except we've seen Superman casually navigate through a city while moving faster than the speed of sound. We've seen Clark keep Lois safe while taking out a terrorist, who was holding onto her, while moving at blinding speed. Faora was flash stepping and Clark was overwhelming her in single combat. Wonder Woman is not faster than that because she blitzed some normal humans.
Saving Lois at the start of BvS. If he wasn't precise at that speed he would have killed her.
Lmao. Superman already has a similar feat when he casually cauth the Kryptonite projectile, and he doesn't need to block bullets because he's not made of tissue paper.
Oh, you think? And what scene are you even talking about. I don't remember anything that looked like teleporting.
And btw, don't think that I haven't noticed that you've failed to come up with a responce to the edge Zod's flight and ranged powers give him. If Zod just stayed in the air and nuked WW with HV is there anything she can do but block until he eventually hits her?
Originally posted by PsychotronFlying through the air at faster the speed of sound doesn't prove reflexes. Superman always had large distances in front of him when he flew faster than sound. A human can navigate in a super sonic jet.
Except we've seen Superman casually navigate through a city while moving faster than the speed of sound. We've seen Clark keep Lois safe while taking out a terrorist, who was holding onto her, while moving at blinding speed. Faora was flash stepping and Clark was overwhelming her in single combat. Wonder Woman is not faster than that because she blitzed some normal humans.Saving Lois at the start of BvS. If he wasn't precise at that speed he would have killed her.
Lmao. Superman already has a similar feat when he casually cauth the Kryptonite projectile, and he doesn't need to block bullets because he's not made of tissue paper.
Oh, you think? And what scene are you even talking about. I don't remember anything that looked like teleporting.
And btw, don't think that I haven't noticed that you've failed to come up with a responce to the edge Zod's flight and ranged powers give him. If Zod just stayed in the air and nuked WW with HV is there anything she can do but block until he eventually hits her?
The terrorist feat is less than blocking a bullet at 10 ft away. Superman never reached the speed of a bullet there.
Zod WILL engaged her in fisticuffs. He will not stay in the air and spam HV. This is not a member controlled character.
Originally posted by h1a8
Flying through the air at faster the speed of sound doesn't prove reflexes. Superman always had large distances in front of him when he flew faster than sound. A human can navigate in a super sonic jet.
There are no objects in the sky to avoid.The terrorist feat is less than blocking a bullet at 10 ft away. Superman never reached the speed of a bullet there.
Zod WILL engaged her in fisticuffs. He will not stay in the air and spam HV. This is not a member controlled character.
Do you even watch the movies you debate? He spent most of the fight against Zod flying through Metropolis. There was one scene that showed Superman moving at high speeds between buildings without any problem. No human pilot can do that, not even close.
Not to mention that Superman kept up with Faora, who has a legit super speed combat feat, and Nam-Ek at the same time.
We don't know how fast Clark went in that scene, but we do know he can fly at multiple times the speed of sound.
Oh, really? Because I remember Zod using flight and HV extensively as soon as he had them. Wonder Woman, being grounded and all, is pretty ****ed in that situation.
Originally posted by Psychotronbuildings have large distances between them. And Superman wasn't moving much faster than Mach 1, if that.
Do you even watch the movies you debate? He spent most of the fight against Zod flying through Metropolis. There was one scene that showed Superman moving at high speeds between buildings without any problem. No human pilot can do that, not even close.Not to mention that Superman kept up with Faora, who has a legit super speed combat feat, and Nam-Ek at the same time.
We don't know how fast Clark went in that scene, but we do know he can fly at multiple times the speed of sound.
Oh, really? Because I remember Zod using flight and HV extensively as soon as he had them. Wonder Woman, being grounded and all, is pretty ****ed in that situation.
Superman didn't keep up with Faora, she outclassed him in speed. Superman tagging her isn't a reflex feat or speed feat. It's a low showing for Faora (since she casually dodged Superman's blitz before).
We do know how fast Clark moved. Speed = distance/ time
Just time the distance Clark traveled between him and a marker.
Originally posted by h1a8
buildings have large distances between them. And Superman wasn't moving much faster than Mach 1, if that.Superman didn't keep up with Faora, she outclassed him in speed. Superman tagging her isn't a reflex feat or speed feat. It's a low showing for Faora (since she casually dodged Superman's blitz before).
We do know how fast Clark moved. Speed = distance/ time
Just time the distance Clark traveled between him and a marker.
There's a few dozen yards between buildings, good luck navigating that at that speed.
No. She outclassed him in skill, which he compensated for by using his other powers. She even points this out in her little speech to him.
Okay, calculate how fast Clark moved when he saved Lois from Lex in BvS. Take into account the time he would have needed to hear her scream first.
Originally posted by PsychotronA few dozen yards? Like 3 dozen yards (108ft)? Those buildings were much further than that. But let's assume they were the distance you are claiming.
There's a few dozen yards between buildings, good luck navigating that at that speed.No. She outclassed him in skill, which he compensated for by using his other powers. She even points this out in her little speech to him.
Okay, calculate how fast Clark moved when he saved Lois from Lex in BvS. Take into account the time he would have needed to hear her scream first.
A human can have 0.2 of a second in reaction speed. That means a human can react to an object that is 108ft away while traveling over 300mph (I can show you the math if you like). Was Superman traveling greater than 300 mph then?
If so, then how much faster (1.5x, 2x, ...)?
Originally posted by h1a8
A few dozen yards? Like 3 dozen yards (108ft)? Those buildings were much further than that. But let's assume they were the distance you are claiming.A human can have 0.2 of a second in reaction speed. That means a human can react to an object that is 108ft away while traveling over 300mph (I can show you the math if you like). Was Superman traveling greater than 300 mph then?
If so, then how much faster (1.5x, 2x, ...)?
Mate, you're spewing complete bullshit. The average human's reflexes aren't even enough to react when a deer jumps out in in front of their car when driving with 50 mph. 300 mhp is absurd, even Formula 1 drivers can't react at that speed.
Originally posted by PsychotronAt least you can research it. I played college baseball. A pitcher throwing 95mph will cause the ball to be in the air for about 0.4 of a second. The hitter must decide to swing AND where to swing by the time the ball is halfway. This is about 0.2 of a second, which is the best of humans.
Mate, you're spewing complete bullshit. The average human's reflexes aren't even enough to react when a deer jumps out in in front of their car when driving with 50 mph. 300 mhp is absurd, even Formula 1 drivers can't react at that speed.
False analogy.
A car can't stop on a dime. There is a breaking distance. Also, It takes time for the foot to travel from acceleration to brake AFTER one reacts and decides to hit the brakes. When flying like Superman, reactions ARE the speed of the actions. There is no bottleneck.
Originally posted by PsychotronNo, the time it takes to react. speed is irrelevant. If you are traveling at the speed of light towards the sun then how long do you have to react to change directions?
Are you seriously comparing swinging a bat with moving at hundreds of miles per hour?This is ****ing embarrassing.
Originally posted by h1a8
No, the time it takes to react. speed is irrelevant. If you are traveling at the speed of light towards the sun then how long do you have to react to change directions?
If you're traveling at the speed of light it would seem like the beginning and end of your journey happen at the same time. This is just nonsense.
Originally posted by PsychotronYou would have to react in 8 minutes. That's how long it takes to run into the Sun traveling at light speed from Earth.
If you're traveling at the speed of light it would seem like the beginning and end of your journey happen at the same time. This is just nonsense.
Speed is irrelevant. It's about time (which is distance/speed).
Originally posted by h1a8
You would have to react in 8 minutes. That's how long it takes to run into the Sun traveling at light speed from Earth.Speed is irrelevant. It's about time (which is distance/speed).
That's not how the speed of light works, h1. You as a self-claimed physics expert should know this.
Originally posted by Psychotron
That's not how the speed of light works, h1. You as a self-claimed physics expert should know this.
Ok, well 99% of the speed of light. Stop nitpicking. You get my point. Speed is irrelevant. It's all about speed AND distance to give time.
Superman traveling at high speed but is far away from an object that it he only needs 0.5 to react simply means he shown 0.5 reaction times.