Originally posted by Psychotron
It wasn't. Iron Man did some science shit to the core, it lit up with a blue light, Thor hit it, and the whole thing went off with blue energy ripping the city apart.
The same blue energy that was emitted when Thor destroyed the rainbow bridge. Might not be a coincidence...
IOW, you don't know what striking means.
verb (used with object), struck or (Obsolete) strook; struck or especially for 31–34, stricken or (Obsolete) strook; striking.
1.
to deal a blow or stroke to (a person or thing), as with the fist, a weapon, or a hammer; hit.
2.
to inflict, deliver, or deal (a blow, stroke, attack, etc.).
3.
to drive so as to cause impact:
to strike the hands together.
4.
to thrust forcibly:
Brutus struck a dagger into the dying Caesar.
5.
to produce (fire, sparks, light, etc.) by percussion, friction, etc.
6.
to cause (a match) to ignite by friction.
7.
(of some natural or supernatural agency) to smite or blast:
Lightning struck the spire. May God strike you dead!
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
It doesn't matter how durable it was, you see the destruction Thor's strikes caused. Sokovia is a bit muddy I agree, but you can clear as day see a city wide shockwave that coincides with Thor's strike. The nuclear explosion could be the engines, I'm not really sure TBH. Never the less, crushing (at the very least) the surface of a whole city with a single hit is beyond anything Superman has done thus far.Yeah she's strong, but she's not up to snuff. She caught Superman off guard, he was able to fight her and Nam-Ek at the same time.
What you don't understand is that Thor barely did anything with the strike. It was the insane lightning that he channeled in the reactor that did the most from him. A typical lightning strike lasts for a few micro seconds and carries Giga joules of energy. A lightning strike that lasts for a second would have thousands of times more energy. Thor was absorbing lightning for several seconds. This is an insane amount of energy.
Plus it was a domino effect. Like a building collapse under its own weight.
Fighting both at the same time doesn't prove he's stronger. She casually stopped his attack. This alone proves that they are peers. Nam, imo, would beat the hell out of Clark by himself.
Originally posted by h1a8
What you don't understand is that Thor barely did anything with the strike. It was the insane lightning that he channeled in the reactor that did the most from him. A typical lightning strike lasts for a few micro seconds and carries Giga joules of energy. A lightning strike that lasts for a second would have thousands of times more energy. Thor was absorbing lightning for several seconds. This is an insane amount of energy.
Plus it was a domino effect. Like a building collapse under its own weight.Fighting both at the same time doesn't prove he's stronger. She casually stopped his attack. This alone proves that they are peers. Nam, imo, would beat the hell out of Clark by himself.
What you don't you understand is you can't apply "science" to fantasy based films, that don't care about the laws of physics. Yes, it was a charged hammer strike, and no that doesn't mean it's not a striking feat. It's hilarious the kind of hoops you goofs will jump through to try and discredit a feat.
Dude wtf is wrong with you? What kind of drugs are you on that allow you to do the mental gymnastics that lead you to the conclusion Nam Ek>Superman? That's so stupid I don't even know what to say.
Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, you don't know what striking means.verb (used with object), struck or (Obsolete) strook; struck or especially for 31–34, stricken or (Obsolete) strook; striking.
1.
to deal a blow or stroke to (a person or thing), as with the fist, a weapon, or a hammer; hit.
2.
to inflict, deliver, or deal (a blow, stroke, attack, etc.).
3.
to drive so as to cause impact:
to strike the hands together.
4.
to thrust forcibly:
Brutus struck a dagger into the dying Caesar.
5.
to produce (fire, sparks, light, etc.) by percussion, friction, etc.
6.
to cause (a match) to ignite by friction.
7.
(of some natural or supernatural agency) to smite or blast:
Lightning struck the spire. May God strike you dead!
It was not a fist feat, which is what we are talking a out. Superman hits harder, faster and is stronger then Thor. There is no debate about this.
Originally posted by h1a8
What you don't understand is that Thor barely did anything with the strike. It was the insane lightning that he channeled in the reactor that did the most from him. A typical lightning strike lasts for a few micro seconds and carries Giga joules of energy. A lightning strike that lasts for a second would have thousands of times more energy. Thor was absorbing lightning for several seconds. This is an insane amount of energy.
Plus it was a domino effect. Like a building collapse under its own weight.
For once h1 is correct.
Ya, at least in part, gotta give h1 some credit where credit is due: Thor used a hammer strike on Steve's vibranium shield in the opening Age of Ultron Hydra base attack, from which the energy was reflected forward to take out the Hydra soldiers and tank. In the finale, the following happens as a callback to that moment in the film's opening:
- Tony overloads the vibranium core in the land mass
- Thor charges hammer for a monster strike
- Thor strikes the land mass, reflecting the energy throughout the vibranium core outward to destroy the land mass
So, while I'm not completely agreeing with h1 in that Thor barely did anything, he is in correct in that it's difficult to quantify just how much Thor did.
It's questionable to take Thor's Sokovia hammer feat and make him into a continent-buster when the movie establishes how a Mjolnir-to-vibranium connection works earlier in the film. It's a plot device established in the beginning to be used at the end.
For the record on this fight:
Faora
Pros:
- Has a big-time speed and quickness advantage
- Has Hulk-style long distance jumps for mobility
- Has Kryptonian durability. She can be knocked back by heavy machine gun fire or missiles and Krypto-opponent hits, but receives no permanent damage.
Cons:
- Mask weakness
Kurse
Pros:
- Massive massive durability (causing and then taking that Asgard shield generator tower explosion right in front of him, getting stabbed and continuing to - seemingly - kill Loki)
- Strength to slap away Mjolnir and keep Thor pinned down with ground-pounding
Cons:
- Much slower and less mobile than Faora
Deciding factors:
- Can Kurse eventually get a hold of Faora due to her substantially superior maneuverability?
- Can Kurse damage Faora's mask to cause Earth's atmosphere to get through?
- Can Faora even put enough of a hurting on Kurse for a win?
Originally posted by John Murdoch
For the record on this fight:Faora
Pros:
- Has a big-time speed and quickness advantage
- Has Hulk-style long distance jumps for mobility
- Has Kryptonian durability. She can be knocked back by heavy machine gun fire or missiles and Krypto-opponent hits, but receives no permanent damage.Cons:
- Mask weaknessKurse
Pros:
- Massive massive durability (causing and then taking that Asgard shield generator tower explosion right in front of him, getting stabbed and continuing to - seemingly - kill Loki)
- Strength to slap away Mjolnir and keep Thor pinned down with ground-poundingCons:
- Much slower and less mobile than FaoraDeciding factors:
- Can Kurse eventually get a hold of Faora due to her substantially superior maneuverability?No, he's too slow.
- Can Kurse damage Faora's mask to cause Earth's atmosphere to get through?No, he's too slow
- Can Faora even put enough of a hurting on Kurse for a win?