Violence at Neo Nazi protest.

Started by Afro Cheese58 pages

Originally posted by BackFire
Ironic, Huff post did that to expose the hypocrisy of one group complaining about the actions of another, while simultaneously doing the same thing. A favorite pastime of yours.

He knew people would twist this like what? That Nazis are bad? Why would Trump have a problem with people concentrating specifically on nazis after one of them killed someone?

Maybe cause only one of them killed someone, and the rest were protesting non violently, and Trump probably knows that they are likely to support him. So why would he condemn their protest?

The same way when BLM rhetoric arguably lead to cops being shot, the leftist polemics isolated the violent individuals from BLM as a whole. Because most of them didn't shoot any cops.

No you're very clearly trying to say "well both sides are violent, so that somehow means that both are to be blamed". Which is legitimately bullshit one side has a track record of killing people the other doesn't. Anymore brilliant revelations?

Originally posted by jaden101
Yeah. They were. That'll be why anyone with brains condemned the idiocy of the BLM riots.

Where as here's you, sticking up for actual Nazis. Well done you.


I'm not sticking up for nazis, I'm sticking up for free speech. I'm part Chinese so Nazis aren't really in my "cool book".

Originally posted by darthgoober
The news and internet absolutely did NOT focus on it. The narrative was normally along the lines of "There was large peaceful protest of facist rhetoric and a few of the assembled became violent".

Well I certainly heard about it on the news and on the internet. Saw videos all over the place showing a guy in a MAGA hat get attacked very horrifically. Was reported on all the news channels at the time, as it should have been.

Granted, some particularly stupid people did attempt to minimize it and even blame others. Just like you and others are doing now while lying about the coverage of another event.

Good because that would make you like Surtur

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
Maybe cause only one of them killed someone, and the rest were protesting non violently, and Trump probably knows that they are likely to support him. So why would he condemn their protest?

The same way when BLM rhetoric arguably lead to cops being shot, the leftist polemics isolated the violent individuals from BLM as a whole. Because most of them didn't shoot any cops.

Because they're literal nazis and one of them committed murder. And murder is the ultimate end game of the nazi ideals.

Originally posted by carthage
No you're very clearly trying to say "well both sides are violent, so that somehow means that both are to be blamed". Which is legitimately bullshit one side has a track record of killing people the other doesn't. Anymore brilliant revelations?

Carthage...bro, what is the deal? You seemed level headed in the past. Antifa is a known violent group man. They did not come there to peacefully protest. They came for violence. So now if both sides get called out, it is wrong?

I don't get it. Why does rampant violence get a pass merely because the other side surpassed you in violence?

Originally posted by BackFire
Because they're literal nazis and one of them committed murder. And murder is the ultimate end game of the nazi ideals.

That's a pretty lazy argument, man.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
That's a pretty lazy argument, man.

I am still just confused. The murder is wrong, but it doesn't erase both sides violence. It is like people see the word "nazi" and their brains just melt. I can't 100% fault them, nazis are awful. But not so utterly awful that reality itself ceases to exist and you ignore everything else.

Originally posted by BackFire
Well I certainly heard about it on the news and on the internet. Saw videos all over the place showing a guy in a MAGA hat get attacked very horrifically. Was reported on all the news channels at the time, as it should have been.

Granted, some particularly stupid people did attempt to minimize it and even blame others. Just like you and others are doing now while lying about the coverage of another event.


I'm not trying to minimize anything, I just don't think that nazis should be lumped into a special category because someone finally died. This is an escalating problem on both sides, it's not like the incident just came out of nowhere.

I say just don't give the nazi f*cks attention. If you need to counter protest, do it on the other side of town.

Don't feed that beast. Do not give them *any* excuse to justify themselves.

That's obviously what we should do... but we lack the self restraint.

And the political climate is too inflammatory. The masses are thirsty for blood in the streets.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
That's obviously what we should do... but we lack the self restraint.

And the political climate is too inflammatory. The masses are thirsty for blood in the streets.

And Texas will be the ultimate test. Seeing how this shit turned out, they can't attend this "white lives matter" rally without expecting violence.

Over 330,000 registered firearms in Texas lol. No other state even breaks 300,000.

It's not a good idea, though they have the right to do it. People need to leave them to their silliness and mock them from afar.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
That's a pretty lazy argument, man.

It's not, it's reality. Nazis = Bad and should be specifically and unilaterally condemned when one of them commits murder, which again, as history proves, is the ultimate end game of the Nazi idealism.

Originally posted by BackFire
It's not, it's reality. Nazis = Bad and should be specifically and unilaterally condemned when one of them commits murder, which again, as history proves, is the ultimate end game of the Nazi idealism.

But dude again: antifa=bad lol. Chucking bricks at folks heads,rocks at folks heads, physical violence, molotov cocktails, etc.

Originally posted by Surtur
But dude again: antifa=bad lol. Chucking bricks at folks heads,rocks at folks heads, physical violence, molotov cocktails, etc.

The College Prof that was swinging a bike padlock on a chain at peoples heads was a nasty one. But yeah not trying to HURT anyone when he did it....cause Anti-Fa...

I am disgusted that you politicise a death and use it not only as a platform, but then go on to condemn the victim's side. This is the exact same situation as before, except unlike the girl, this time the victim of a Nazi actually did die, and he is receiving your protection in ANY form simply because you want to condemn Antifa is attrocious.

I'm sorry Surt, but a person has now been killed. No matter what your stance on Antifa is, or your desire to bring up their wrongdoings, the fact that you are in any way shape or form minimising the fact that a person is dead, at the hands of a Neo Nazi, just to raise the narrative that Antifa is bad and do bad shit is unacceptable.

I have no links to the group at all, I'm not one for public outcry and bullshit that comes with politics, but I do find trying to sweep a mans death and who did it under the rug for political convenience more than merely distasteful.

Then again, this part of the forum in recent months has grown so sickening, it is infact WORSE than Movie Vs or game Vs at their utter trolliest. The opinions reflected in these threads have become so polarized and utterly devoid of any redeeming qualities that they are vulgar beyond any reasonable measure. If this is how people think over there, and I mean really think in their hearts, I am amazed that the states have managed to remain united as long as they have... The toxicity levels between you lot is enough to choke the life out of every rodent and roach in the world simultaneously.

The movie versus forum is hardly that bad unless your a fan of Ozymandias, Bane, Superman, or Batman then some of the posts may make up consider abandoning the internet and becoming a Tibetan monk in Kun Lun

lol

Originally posted by BackFire
It's not, it's reality. Nazis = Bad and should be specifically and unilaterally condemned when one of them commits murder, which again, as history proves, is the ultimate end game of the Nazi idealism.
The ultimate end game of Nazi idealism is to create some sort of racial utopia, the same way that the ultimate end game of Communists is to create a worker's utopia, the same way that the ultimate end game of Islamists is to create an Islamic utopia. And then in pursuing their goals, all three have historically murdered to do so.

That doesn't make a non violent white nationalist/supremacist/nazi demonstrator any more murderous than a non violent communist protester etc.