Originally posted by Bashar Teg
you're only addressing the one murder, because you're a cowardly bottom-feeder [b]who refuses to acknowledge the pattern: 5 instances in a half-year. keep tryharding to take some shade off your aryan brethren. [/B]
As I don't have double standards, unlike some people. This would apply to all people guilty of these types of murders
Originally posted by Silent Master
Agreed, though I'm hoping for life w/o parole, rather than the death penalty. As I want his suffering to last as long as possible.
Since you can't read.
As I don't have double standards, unlike some people. This would apply to all people guilty of these types of murders
Originally posted by Silent Master
Agreed, though I'm hoping for life w/o parole, rather than the death penalty. As I want his suffering to last as long as possible.
I think what Bashar is asking for is some actual aknowledgement of the 5 murders performed by the same group, or at least the same ideology. Islamic extremist terrorists all get lumped together, as do communists, so why not nazis?
Yes, Antifa are capable of doing terrible things, and their actions can spiral out of control, this is not in dispute. However, the Facists, KKK White Supremacists and Neo Nazi's are known murderers, known bigots, and generally terrible people. Their ideology is at LEAST as bad as ISIS, if not worse. But nobody even wants to touch that subject nevermind talk about it.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I think what Bashar is asking for is some actual aknowledgement of the 5 murders performed by the same group, or at least the same ideology. Islamic extremist terrorists all get lumped together, as do communists, so why not nazis?Yes, Antifa are capable of doing terrible things, and their actions can spiral out of control, this is not in dispute. However, the Facists, KKK White Supremacists and Neo Nazi's are known murderers, known bigots, and generally terrible people. Their ideology is at LEAST as bad as ISIS, if not worse. But nobody even wants to touch that subject nevermind talk about it.
Except he said it was mass murder. What five murderes are you talking about?
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I think what Bashar is asking for is some actual aknowledgement of the 5 murders performed by the same group, or at least the same ideology. Islamic extremist terrorists all get lumped together, as do communists, so why not nazis?Yes, Antifa are capable of doing terrible things, and their actions can spiral out of control, this is not in dispute. However, the Facists, KKK White Supremacists and Neo Nazi's are known murderers, known bigots, and generally terrible people. Their ideology is at LEAST as bad as ISIS, if not worse. But nobody even wants to touch that subject nevermind talk about it.
this guy gets it.
only you forgot:
murders by antifa members: 0
Originally posted by Sable
Except he said it was mass murder.
Technically speaking, when members of the same group perform multiple murders it can be called mass murder.
And a few of those listed by Bashar have killed more than one person at one time, thus technically making them mass murderers.
That being said, why would semantics bother you in this particular context?
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroCorrect!
I think what Bashar is asking for is some actual aknowledgement of the 5 murders performed by the same group, or at least the same ideology. Islamic extremist terrorists all get lumped together, as do communists, so why not nazis?Yes, Antifa are capable of doing terrible things, and their actions can spiral out of control, this is not in dispute. However, the Facists, KKK White Supremacists and Neo Nazi's are known murderers, known bigots, and generally terrible people. Their ideology is at LEAST as bad as ISIS, if not worse. But nobody even wants to touch that subject nevermind talk about it.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Technically speaking, when members of the same group perform multiple murders it can be called mass murder.And a few of those listed by Bashar have killed more than one person at one time, thus technically making them mass murderers.
That being said, why would semantics bother you in this particular context?
3-4 killed people at different times is mass murder, are you shitting me? Facts are not semantics, if you want to be factual, be factual.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Technically speaking, when members of the same group perform multiple murders it can be called mass murder.And a few of those listed by Bashar have killed more than one person at one time, thus technically making them mass murderers.
That being said, why would semantics bother you in this particular context?
i should have said "attempted mass murder". it's not fair to label them as mass-murderers when their full plans never came to fruition. apparently that matters.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
this guy gets it.only you forgot:
murders by antifa members: 0
See, that is what bothers me about this subject. Antifa sometimes do bad shit, it is known. But they have not KILLED anyone on the street.
Nazi's have done so multiple times - yet SOMEHOW, Antifa's negative actions get brought up to try and minimize a person's death... If you drag the marker of outrage of murder any closer to "Fair Game" other than where it should be, then in my mind, you do not value life a all.
Yes, I stood up for that dreadlocks girl from Antifa, was I wrong in my assessment of her character? Possibly, but I stand by what I said. And if she had died, I would advocate throwing that prick into a dark cell and have the key tossed into a volcano.
The 5 murderers should get that treatment, and no ammunt of pointing and talking about antifa's antics will alter that course.
My main point of contention in this thread is why Antifa is being debated at all beyond anecdotal footnotes? I'll tell you why, Any amount of deflection off the subject at hand is better than opening holes in the ideology Trump seems to support. None of the more levelheaded Trumpers want it to seem like they are even being associated with people like Neo Nazis.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The Anne Frank Center for Mutual Respect posted this screen capture from the website of a Neo Nazi group praising how Trump responded to the White Nationalists in Charlottesville:
-Antifa throws rocks
-Nazis run over people and kill them.
Really, there is no difference; they're both violent.
Originally posted by Sable
3-4 killed people at different times is mass murder, are you shitting me? Facts are not semantics, if you want to be factual, be factual.
You want to play word games with me yet again SM? Fine, read this:
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
See, that is what bothers me about this subject. Antifa sometimes do bad shit, it is known. But they have not KILLED anyone on the street.Nazi's have done so multiple times - yet SOMEHOW, Antifa's negative actions get brought up to try and minimize a person's death... If you drag the marker of outrage of murder any closer to "Fair Game" other than where it should be, then in my mind, you do not value life a all.
Yes, I stood up for that dreadlocks girl from Antifa, was I wrong in my assessment of her character? Possibly, but I stand by what I said. And if she had died, I would advocate throwing that prick into a dark cell and have the key tossed into a volcano.
The 5 murderers should get that treatment, and no ammunt of pointing and talking about antifa's antics will alter that course.
My main point of contention in this thread is why Antifa is being debated at all beyond anecdotal footnotes? I'll tell you why, Any amount of deflection off the subject at hand is better than opening holes in the ideology Trump seems to support. None of the more levelheaded Trumpers want it to seem like they are even being associated with people like Neo Nazis.