Originally posted by Bashar Teg
what's the body count, again? just curious. 🙂
If it helps you to frame it this way, there are zero deaths. If it helps you to ignore the various acts of violence and destruction committed by them, if you want to ignore some have admitted they are communists and are not patriots, if you want to ignore some have said the very existence of Trump supporters is an act of violence you go ahead and do that.
right-wing terror victims who were mudered this year. i'll leave out all the injured so that this post won't go on for another 8 pages.
feb. 24, 2017 - kansas shooting
murdered: srinivas kuchibhotla
march 20, 2017 - stabbing
murdered: timothy caughman
may 26, 2017 - portland train attack
murdered: ricky john best and taliesin myrddin namkai meche
August 12, 2017 - Vehicular attack in charlottesville
murdered: heather d. heyer
now i'd like to see antifa's body count. but i won't. because there is none. just words and feelz.
Originally posted by Bashar TegPoint made, I think, good stuff!
right-wing terror victims who were mudered this year. i'll leave out all the injured so that this post won't go on for another 8 pages.feb. 24, 2017 - kansas shooting
murdered: srinivas kuchibhotlamarch 20, 2017 - stabbing
murdered: timothy caughmanmay 26, 2017 - portland train attack
murdered: ricky john best and taliesin myrddin namkai mecheAugust 12, 2017 - Vehicular attack in charlottesville
murdered: heather d. heyernow i'd like to see antifa's body count. but i won't. because there is none. just words and feelz.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
how many antifa terrorist attaxks again?
Here's 3 examples that were pretty easy to find in just a couple of minutes...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qKCl9NL1Cg
Originally posted by cdtmi think that there is a legitimate argument to be had about whether or not nazis deserve the right to demonstrate and preach their ideas. and i think that if you oppose that right then you oppose the concept of free speech, simple as that.
Oh, I believe in that whole heartedly.I also think these kinds of ridiculous arguments take away from talking about, say, how Black Lives Matter was abandoned by many in a certain community when they took up the cause of voiceless muslims in a land they share with another power..
I blame the right for this as much as the left.. The right for defending goddamn nazi's, and the left for taking the bait because arguing against obvious "wtf" is more fun then talking about something like what I mentioned (By way of example.. Plenty of other things you can bring in, but that's been on my mind lately.)
as chomsky says, even hitler and stalin supported free speech for ideas that they agree with.
Nazis/KKK/Alt-Right and garden variety White Supremacist do have the right to preach their views, we have freedoms and we take the good with the bad.
But people also have the right to preach against those hateful views and no amount of "if only the anti-hate protestors stayed home nothing bad would have happened" rants, as some weird way to blame the violence and death on everyone except the hate mongering White Supremacist will change that. Freedom of speech works both ways.
Of note: Why aren't those same people applying that "just stay home" logic to the Nazis as well? Weird
Originally posted by socool8520These so called "Alt-Left" (unless they've started calling themselves this?) reportedly attack Nazis who are violent themselves. Is it right? No. But are they the same? Hardly.
True, but the alt-left have been attacking people. This is not a one side only type of thing. The extremes on both sides are starting to look a lot alike.