Iron Fist vs Captain America

Originally posted by cdtm
Uh huh.

And what feat makes you think Cap is shrugging off a floor busting Iron Fist, or that he's anywhere near Luke Cage level durability, Matt level skill, or any of that other B.S. Rage.Of.Olympus claimed.

Who I believe argued against feats on many occasions in his comic debates, as MANY have.. Danny vs Cap no shield no IF is one example of such, where the board bandwagons on Steve to such a degree they even call him KOing Hulk as "not PIS."

The definition of fanboyism, if you Cap taking Hulk doesn't raise an eyebrow.

Did I say he would be shrugging off a floor busting Iron Fist? Or that Cap has LC durability? Talk about strawman. I might maybe debate Cap vs Matt skill but that is neither here nor there (as you still need to post arguments against my original posts on your "grapple" logic).

You say my points are BS but offer no rebuttal or point out anything where I am in error other than the 10x strength thing. You are then offered to post "feats" to argue points regarding the 10x strength thing but do not respond to it and now just post arguments I haven't even made, and accuse me of being a fanboy when I posted relevant arguments that are open for you to argue against.

Yet you say I am unreasonable.

Originally posted by Psychotron
He's doesn't have Cage's durability, he can't take more 1 or two 2 shots.

I see you ran off, Cap wins👆

Originally posted by Sable
I see you ran off, Cap wins👆

Filling in for him.

Danny wins. 😉

TV Iron Fist isn't comics IF, he needs to charge up the fist, doesn't normally start with it and if Cap blocks it he needs to recharge before using it again.

Where does Cap get hit all the time?

YouTube video

Here even after being taken by surprise by Batroc he's only hit twice, even blocking the initial hit with the shield.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Cap isn't even as strong as Jessica much less Luke. How is he more skilled than Matt and faster than Elektra?

Yes he is. His feats easily match Luke's best. The only thing I couldn't see him replicating was the SUV feat but with his shield he can stop a car no doubt. Steve literally kicked a park jeep so hard it slid and sent a soldier flying rather casually in AoU.

Faster than Elektra in combat and more skilled than Matt might not have been true before but now it is. The least conclusive thing is Matt's skill but even then it's debatable enough that it doesn't matter.

Steve is multiple times stronger than Iron Fist. He could grab Danny by the wrist and shove the Iron Fist up his ass without much problem.

Danny and Matt are capable fighters and elites similar to Black Widow. When facing beings like Steve, T'Challa and Bucky they're screwed. Superhuman physical enhancements far beyond human with comparable skill.

I could actually see him pushing the SUV like that too. It was obviously either in Drive or Neutral as she got it there in the first place. And Cap has done stuff like palm Ultron's chest and push him hard enough to sail 30 feet away and shatter a highway support column for instance.

It should be noted than Danny's ironfist doesn't need to connect to do damage. As seen multiple times in the Defenders, just the energy surrounding it is enough to launch back opponents and hurt them.

Originally posted by FrothByte
It should be noted than Danny's ironfist doesn't need to connect to do damage. As seen multiple times in the Defenders, just the energy surrounding it is enough to launch back opponents and hurt them.

And Cap's shield + superior reflexes = perfect defense that will bounce the energy right nack at Danny.

Captain America IF he was taken off his feet by the shock wave would quickly recover. He'd recover faster than Iron Fist would himself from the shockwave ironically if it's widespread. Quicksilver hits with crazy hard momentum, sending multiple assailants flying easily, even tearing apart Ultron drones when all-out and Cap landed on his feet like a feline.

Originally posted by cdtm
Filling in for him.

Danny wins. 😉

No one agrees with you besides the guy who ran off because he was overwhelmed.

Originally posted by Sable
No one agrees with you besides the guy who ran off because he was overwhelmed.

The Dragon Ball Super page has me used to standing alone against the unwashed ignorant masses. 👆

Its not ignorant to think Cap wins, when he clearly does. He has taken on tougher opponents, has greater feats.

Danny has been KO'd numerous times, isnt that durable. One hard hit from Cap would likely kill him.

An Iron Fist would splatter Cap.

Originally posted by KingD19
And Cap's shield + superior reflexes = perfect defense that will bounce the energy right nack at Danny.

Which is why I gave Cap a 10/10 win with shield but only 7/10 in pure h2h.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Which is why I gave Cap a 10/10 win with shield but only 7/10 in pure h2h.

Bah, you can't hide behind a shield forever.

The only reason it stops Mjolnir or Hulk is because they won't simply counter his little punch's with one of their own. You know, the sensible thing.

Originally posted by cdtm
An Iron Fist would splatter Cap.

It wouldn't because it didn't spatter any of the fodder he hit with it, or any of the Hand members.

Originally posted by cdtm
Bah, you can't hide behind a shield forever.

The only reason it stops Mjolnir or Hulk is because they won't simply counter his little punch's with one of their own. You know, the sensible thing.

You are right, if IF leads with he, he will block it, redirect it back at him, then destroy him.

It looks like cdtm is just trolling, so I guess this has been pretty much settled.