Originally posted by abhilegend
Orion would destroy Thor against this point. Dude can't even win against Ulik.
Ulik cheapshots Thor at his lowest point and doesn't even take him out and that's your reasoning for Orion winning? Literally in the same miniseries he casually owns the Collector, and Hela/Proxima Midnight/Black Swan at the same time when he's irritated at the end.....
Orion was a p*ssy for 90% of his appearances in Wonder Woman but that doesn't mean he gets owned either.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Ulik cheapshots Thor at his lowest point and doesn't even take him out and that's your reasoning for Orion winning?
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Ulik had him down in literally two punches. Losing to Ulik is like losing to Kite-man. You can never recover from that.
Literally in the same miniseries he casually owns the Collector, and Hela/Proxima Midnight/Black Swan at the same time when he's irritated at the end.....
Yay, an elder who is famous for getting his ass kicked and a bunch of mid tiers and a weakened Hela.
How could Orion compete with casually owing Hal Jordan, defeating Mogo and stalemating Superman.
Orion was a p*ssy for 90% of his appearances in Wonder Woman but that doesn't mean he gets owned either.
Orion actually did better than uncuffed Diana.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
......How does that change my point? Especially since I wasn't subscribing to Abhil's idiotic logic.
Because Unworthy Thor has far fewer appearances to choose from, which magnifies the importance or weight of any low showings he has.
Sure, Orion had low showings in WW. But it's evened out when you start chucking all his other showings in.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Cheapshotted?https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-R1GEkp06BP4/WOzYlIyES1I/AAAAAAADJuk/HHTrk_K1jpwsy3ByNGNP3TRwB_1Udou_ACLcB/s1600/82_09.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-C7ztmnYvbmM/WOzYlWm_InI/AAAAAAADJuo/Mm1S4YvqBg4e3G8XJZ155BUZj4sjDncvwCLcB/s1600/82_10.jpgUlik had him down in literally two punches. Losing to Ulik is like losing to Kite-man. You can never recover from that.
Yay, an elder who is famous for getting his ass kicked and a bunch of mid tiers and a weakened Hela.
How could Orion compete with casually owing Hal Jordan, defeating Mogo and stalemating Superman.
Orion actually did better than uncuffed Diana.
Yes cheap shot, surprise attack etc. Ulik (With pounders) literally punched Thor's head from behind (With the first being from the side) and Thor was down for a panel (Not even stunned as he was already getting up) and unharmed.
So, to be very clear, being struck by surprise and being down for a panel is equivalent to losing despite being unharmed?
Orion was a punk the whole series and Thor has plenty of feats equivalent to that.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because Unworthy Thor has far fewer appearances to choose from, which magnifies the importance or weight of any low showings he has.Sure, Orion had low showings in WW. But it's evened out when you start chucking all his other showings in.
Unworthy Thor is Thor, he's not a new character. He has decades of showings to draw from.
Unless you're limiting the showings to only post whisper but yet allowing Orion everything....?
And how would that one scene skew anything? Thor was knocked down by a blind side and unharmed. We have in story support for why that Thor is not 100% as well.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes cheap shot, surprise attack etc. Ulik (With pounders) literally punched Thor's head from behind (With the first being from the side) and Thor was down for a panel (Not even stunned as he was already getting up) and unharmed.So, to be very clear, being struck by surprise and being down for a panel is equivalent to losing despite being unharmed?
Orion was a punk the whole series and Thor has plenty of feats equivalent to that.
Orion didn't have any low feats and did decent against First Born. Anyway, Godhead has put Orion back up to high herald/trans level. He easily owned Hal Jordan, whom punked Zero hour Parallax. Even Surfer isn't that good.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbewhatever 🙄
The Motherstorm is a being of it's own and not the power of Jane or Thor, that's how I understood it. Still, to compare it to Orions feat I have a simple question, how much did those Motherstorms destroy of the Galaxy? Because if it was just a nice big flashlight that did no harm whatsoever... you get the point.I personally think that the New Gods operate now on a much higher level than simple heralds, even their Avatars. They are Multiversal beings and their Avatars dip into the Skyfather tier.
Originally posted by abhilegendFirst of all, beginning this thread with an image of Supes b*tchslapping Orion, telling him ta get back in the kitchen and make him a chicken potpie, is very fitting.
Cheapshotted?https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-R1GEkp06BP4/WOzYlIyES1I/AAAAAAADJuk/HHTrk_K1jpwsy3ByNGNP3TRwB_1Udou_ACLcB/s1600/82_09.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-C7ztmnYvbmM/WOzYlWm_InI/AAAAAAADJuo/Mm1S4YvqBg4e3G8XJZ155BUZj4sjDncvwCLcB/s1600/82_10.jpgUlik had him down in literally two punches. Losing to Ulik is like losing to Kite-man. You can never recover from that.
Yay, an elder who is famous for getting his ass kicked and a bunch of mid tiers and a weakened Hela.
How could Orion compete with casually owing Hal Jordan, defeating Mogo and stalemating Superman.
Orion actually did better than uncuffed Diana.
Second, PLEASE, u DC-gobbling sodomites can really grate on one's nerves. ME being the "ONE". Just because DC writers have a bad case of small-man's syndrome and constantly give most characters rediculous bugs bunny-esque cosmic feats with no basis for the abilities, or science, doesn't mean everybody has to swallow it too.
Third, non-jobbing classic Ulik would kick Orion's panzy spine right out his ass.
There us NO way Orion could weather any of the beatings Ulik took, without even slowing down, the way Ulik did.
He just ain't that tough. Even if Orion has his "boombox", astroglide, AND his cosmic big-wheel. He can call all of his superdooper uber space god fancy-pants buddies and once they stop buggering their own sissy avatars they can come weep at Orions corpse hanging, inside-out from Uliks dong.
That's a fact.
Even this stripped-dow, betrayed Thor has shown he is more than a match for the angry spoiled brat. No wonder DS gave him the boot. Was always needing hugs and wanting to suckle on DS's boob.
Nasty. And disappointing.
Originally posted by Horrificus
First of all, beginning this thread with an image of Supes b*tchslapping Orion, telling him ta get back in the kitchen and make him a chicken potpie, is very fitting.Second, PLEASE, u DC-gobbling sodomites can really grate on one's nerves. ME being the "ONE".
non-jobbing classic Ulik would kick Orion's panzy spine right out his ass.
There us NO way Orion could weather any of the beatings Ulik took, without even slowing down, the way Ulik did.He just ain't that tough. Even if Orion has his "boombox", astroglow, AND his cosmic big-wheel. He can call all of his superdooper uber space god fancy-pants buddies and once they stop buggering their own sissy avatars they can come weep at Orions corpse hanging, inside-out from Uliks dong.
That's a fact.
Orion would likely one-shot Ulik and that blonde whore, Thor.
That's a fact, jack. 😉
Originally posted by Horrificus3/10 too much edge
First of all, beginning this thread with an image of Supes b*tchslapping Orion, telling him ta get back in the kitchen and make him a chicken potpie, is very fitting.Second, PLEASE, u DC-gobbling sodomites can really grate on one's nerves. ME being the "ONE". Just because DC writers have a bad case of small-man's syndrome and constantly give most characters rediculous bugs bunny-esque cosmic feats with no basis for the abilities, or science, doesn't mean everybody has to swallow it too.
Third, non-jobbing classic Ulik would kick Orion's panzy spine right out his ass.
There us NO way Orion could weather any of the beatings Ulik took, without even slowing down, the way Ulik did.He just ain't that tough. Even if Orion has his "boombox", astroglide, AND his cosmic big-wheel. He can call all of his superdooper uber space god fancy-pants buddies and once they stop buggering their own sissy avatars they can come weep at Orions corpse hanging, inside-out from Uliks dong.
That's a fact.
Even this stripped-dow, betrayed Thor has shown he is more than a match for the angry spoiled brat. No wonder DS gave him the boot. Was always needing hugs and wanting to suckle on DS's boob.
Nasty. And disappointing.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes cheap shot, surprise attack etc. Ulik (With pounders) literally punched Thor's head from behind (With the first being from the side) and Thor was down for a panel (Not even stunned as he was already getting up) and unharmed.
He punched him from front as he was leaping. Not from the sides and had him down.
So, to be very clear, being struck by surprise and being down for a panel is equivalent to losing despite being unharmed?
Where is it by surprise?
Orion was a punk the whole series and Thor has plenty of feats equivalent to that.
He was a punk character wise but his power level was just fine.
Thor has equivalent feats to destroying a star system with the shockwaves of his attacks? Do tell me.
