Captain America vs. Defenders

Originally posted by h1a8
Cap cannot damage someone who is bulletproof or rpg proof. If bullets does no damage then neither can Cap. He's not beating Luke at all.
JJ can casually break locks without any effort. If she applied that level of strength to Steve then it would be over once she lands a blow.
Cap isn't damaging Luke and he isn't one shotting JJ. Luke solos.

He damanged Ironman who is bullet and rpg proof.

Liar👆

While I agree with your overall point here I think it's important to point out that Ironman's different armors all have different durabilities.

True, but the suit he was wearing was certainly bullet and Rpg proof.

Originally posted by cdtm
Luke was hurting from gas, and Five Fingers had magic/exotics.

They didn't appear to be using magic on Luke. At the same time, none of them really displayed physical strength even on Jessica's level if I remember correctly.

So how were they affecting him? Are they just that damn strong, but we haven't seen them do much besides fight? So no real lifting feats. Was it just bad writing? PIS?

They captured one of the five who seemed to have some impact on Luke, but then the guy should have been able to bust out immediately of his restraints if his strength was on that level.

Originally posted by Surtur
They didn't appear to be using magic on Luke. At the same time, none of them really displayed physical strength even on Jessica's level if I remember correctly.

So how were they affecting him? Are they just that damn strong, but we haven't seen them do much besides fight? So no real lifting feats. Was it just bad writing? PIS?

They captured one of the five who seemed to have some impact on Luke, but then the guy should have been able to bust out immediately of his restraints if his strength was on that level.

It's not totally clear cut with all of the Fingers. They all appear to have some level of enhancement (beyond their extended lifespans), but to extremely varying degrees. Some, like Gao, had blatant tk blasts and enhanced strength, as well as enhanced durability. Murakami, based on his two fights with Luke and Jessica possesses -some- degree of enhanced strength, but nothing major. He was stupidly tough though. Beyond all the hits he takes from people like Luke, he takes a pretty high drop off that elevator in the finale, and was impaled by a piece of rebar on landing, yet was still alive when Gao showed up again. Bakuto tanked three gunshots to the chest as well, so also seemed to have some enhanced damage soak. And Sowande affected Luke via pressure point techniques. When Stick was talking about him, he still said something along the lines of Sowande being able to slow your heart until it stops with just a few moves. Alexandra is implied to be the most powerful, but has by far the least feats. All she does is handle a freshly resurrected Black Sky, who had no memories and was disorientated at the time.

Remember, Cage was told not to fight him because of the fact he'd slow his heart, until it eventually stopped.

That implies more then a physical beating. Odds are, Cage was all sweaty because he was fighting while having heart failure.

Originally posted by Sable
He damanged Ironman not using his shield, who is bullet and rpg proof.

Liar👆

Liar.

Originally posted by h1a8
No he didn't. He damaged IM using the shield.

Liar.

You might want to read posts before responding to them, as Sable didn't say "with his bare hands". so you essentially just admitted he was right and then called him a liar.

Do you realize how retarded that makes you look?

Originally posted by Silent Master
You might want to read posts before responding to them, as Sable didn't say "with his bare hands". so you essentially just admitted he was right and then called him a liar.

Do you realize how retarded that makes you look?

I said Cap didn't damage IM (with his "bare hands"😉.

Sable then said, "he did damage IM" and called me a liar..

Then I finally, said, Cap didn't without the shield.

Originally posted by h1a8
I said Cap didn't damage IM (with his "bare hands"😉.

Sable then said, "he did damage IM" and called me a liar..

Then I finally, said, Cap didn't without the shield.

You sir are the liar and here is proof.

Originally posted by h1a8
Cap cannot damage someone who is bulletproof or rpg proof. If bullets does no damage then neither can Cap. He's not beating Luke at all.
JJ can casually break locks without any effort. If she applied that level of strength to Steve then it would be over once she lands a blow.
Cap isn't damaging Luke and he isn't one shotting JJ. Luke solos.

At not point is "bare hands" mentioned in this post.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You sir are the liar and here is proof.

At not point is "bare hands" mentioned in this post.

I didn't claim I said "bare hands". If you look at my previous post to you then you would see I put "bare hands" in parentheses. This means it was implied.

Also, the way Cap damaged IM is not relevant here.
1. The durability of the thruster part on IMs foot isn't the same as his frontal armor. That was an extremely vulnerable part of IM.
2. Luke Cage is arguably more durable than civil war IM.

Here is you claiming that you said "bare hands"

Originally posted by h1a8
I said Cap didn't damage IM (with his "bare hands"😉.

Sable then said, "he did damage IM" and called me a liar..

Then I finally, said, Cap didn't without the shield.

Once again, I just proved you're a liar. though nice attempt at backtracking with the parentheses means it was implied BS.

Originally posted by h1a8
No he didn't. He damaged IM using the shield.

Liar.

Where did I say he didn't damage him with his shield? Please quote me, liar.

SM,

He changed my quote. I don't know if you saw this. Here is what I actually wrote.

Originally posted by Sable
He damanged Ironman who is bullet and rpg proof.

Liar👆

Originally posted by h1a8
I said Cap didn't damage IM (with his "bare hands"😉.

Sable then said, "he did damage IM" and called me a liar..

Then I finally, said, Cap didn't without the shield.

No you tried to fool SM by quoting me and changing what I said by changing the quote, you disgraceful liar.

I didn't even notice as I read your actual post rather than his quoted version of it.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I didn't even notice as I read your actual post rather than his quoted version of it.

Yea he's a bold faced liar.

Looking back at the shows and movies:

Jessica James solos.

Originally posted by h1a8
Cap ... isn't one shotting JJ.

Jessica got knocked out by a woman with a piece of wood in Ep 10. Never mind one-shotting her, Cap would have to hold back to make sure he doesn't kill her.

Originally posted by Dreampanther
Jessica got knocked out by a woman with a piece of wood in Ep 10. Never mind one-shotting her, Cap would have to hold back to make sure he doesn't kill her.

Anyone can troll and use the highball-lowball con game.
Thing busted WW Hulk face (in which a weaker version held a planet together) while Superman got koed by a gas station. Thus Thing stomps Superman in a fight. See how I just trolled?

JJ flesh is tougher or on par with steel. Otherwise she couldn't casually (no strain) break solid steel objects or tank more powerful shit without being koed. Like a blow from Luke Cage that sent her flying 30 feet .