Originally posted by Sable
I forgot, his entire house fell on him too and survived multiple missles😂
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Ahem
Friday: ""Multiple contusions detected""
Originally posted by Silent Master
So basically, bruises?
Also, CW Iron Man was damaged by Redwing, and later hurt and grappled by Falcon. And as mentioned earlier, pierced by the arrow and damaged by the explosion. His repulsors barely damaged when it hit the concrete road and did zero damage to the cars thrown by SW. He was unable to catch up to the Quinjet, Falcon or the falling Rhodey.
All performances much below previous armors. And yet somehow the CW armor is equal to the previous ones? What a joke!
Originally posted by Silent Master
I see you mentioned all their good points, but you seem to have glossed over the fact that the two strongest people are significantly less skilled than Cap and that barring the IF(which hardly gets spammed during a single fight), the two skilled people don't have the damage output to even slow Cap down.If you're going to call people out for not taking everything into account, you should really make sure you're not guilty of the same thing.
First of all, I've never claimed Luke or Jessica being as skilled as Cap, or that Matt or Danny can put Cap down without the IF.
On the other hand though, it is not out of the realm of possibility that Danny and Matt can create openings for Luke and Jessica. And neither of them are fodder that Cap mows down. And since Cap isn't untouchable to them, they are more than capable of bringing him down
Originally posted by Silent Master
He's under the impression that Cap is going to hold back, while the Defenders are allowed to go all out.
He's under the impression Cap is taking on four characters, two of whom could give him a good 1 vs 1, and two who can certainly hurt him. And that four on one will create openings.
Like he said.
Originally posted by KingD19
Openings? In a fight this serious, Cap isn't gonna hold back. He might not kill them, but he'll definitely hit them hard enough to take them down in a hurry. We've seen how Elektra took all four of them down, and she's nowhere near as strong as Cap. Danny and Matt get ko'd quickly.
You seriously overrate Cap.
Is he above each of the Netlix crew? Perhaps. But he's not leagues above them like many seem to be arguing.
Cap's solidly in the Nolan Batman/Bane/Matt/Danny level, just like in the comics. Veeery slight advantages in some areas, but hardly insurmountable.
Originally posted by cdtm
You seriously overrate Cap.Is he above each of the Netlix crew? Perhaps. But he's not leagues above them like many seem to be arguing.
Cap's solidly in the Nolan Batman/Bane/Matt/Danny level, just like in the comics. Veeery slight advantages in some areas, but hardly insurmountable.
Okay, so I'm gonna need you to show me pure strength feats from Baleman, Bane, Matt, and Danny that match this list.
Holding a helicopter from taking off.
Chucking Ultron 30 feet into a highway support beam and shattering it on impact.
Kicking a parked truck sideways into a human, which sent that human flying.
Throwing a full grown man casually into a ceiling.
Throwing grown men around like ragdolls.
Holding up about 1200lbs over his head for minutes at a time.
Holding a car with one hand while holding onto a bridge with the other.
Pushing a bulldozer.
Slinging Spider-Man around.
Ripping a log in half.
Punching through high tech submarine glass.
Backhanding a Chitauri at least ten feet into a bus.
Ripping Ultron Drones apart with his bare hands.
^ Isn't that bulldozer feat still an outlier? It hasn't actually happened on panel and it far outstrips the other feats that Captain America has?
With that said I'm surprised this thread made it this far. Cap would solidly beat Matt, Danny, and Jessica at once based on what we've seen of him. Luke is the one that makes this a fight IMO.
Originally posted by cdtmCap is significantly faster and stronger than all those people.
You seriously overrate Cap.Is he above each of the Netlix crew? Perhaps. But he's not leagues above them like many seem to be arguing.
Cap's solidly in the Nolan Batman/Bane/Matt/Danny level, just like in the comics. Veeery slight advantages in some areas, but hardly insurmountable.
I'm a Danny fanboy like you, but he would make short work of Netflix IF.
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
You also forgot that it was a different armor. Also he never got hit by multiple missiles ike ever jn my recollection. If you can point outFor someone whose RPG proof, there should be none.
Also, CW Iron Man was damaged by Redwing, and later hurt and grappled by Falcon. And as mentioned earlier, pierced by the arrow and damaged by the explosion. His repulsors barely damaged when it hit the concrete road and did zero damage to the cars thrown by SW. He was unable to catch up to the Quinjet, Falcon or the falling Rhodey.
All performances much below previous armors. And yet somehow the CW armor is equal to the previous ones? What a joke!
Good so no proof👆
Concessions accepted.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
^ Isn't that bulldozer feat still an outlier? It hasn't actually happened on panel and it far outstrips the other feats that Captain America has?With that said I'm surprised this thread made it this far. Cap would solidly beat Matt, Danny, and Jessica at once based on what we've seen of him. Luke is the one that makes this a fight IMO.
Also depends on whether you accept Agents of SHIELD as canon for the Marvelverse. It happens in Episode 10:
"In the episode The Bridge (Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.) superhuman Mike Peterson pushes a bulldozer across a football field.
Afterwards Mike and his trainer exchange these words:
Mike: Did I beat Captain America’s time?
Trainer: Not even close."