Multiversal Eternity vs. COIE Anti-Monitor

Originally posted by leonidas
i had to reread this a couple times but now i get your shock at my comment...

i wasn't even THINKING about the 'weaker universes' issue, and i didn't mean to imply the PMM was only 'half' as strong as the marvel multiverse, but i can see why you would think i was alluding to it. and i guess it sort of even makes some sense now that you put it out there. but what would 'a half strength multiverse' even mean? 😑 i used the term half, simply to help illustrate my point, nothing more.

I thought you were going full-Master on me, leo. 😱

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Originally posted by leonidas
bottomline: PMU + AMU SEEMS to equal the FIRST universe. not sure how else to reconcile the existence of the AMU. /shrug

"A war waged with EQUAL POWER..."

So as I mentioned above: the AMU possessed just as much raw/cumulative POWER as the PMM -- even though the former was comprised of *a* universe, while the latter was comprised of *infinite* universeS... Comic book logic at its finest right thur, lol.

Anywho, that's why I have always maintained that *peak* AM was the rough-equivalent of a Megaversal power. He was already equal to a multiversal power at his BASE level, and then stacked another multiverse-worth of power on top of that when he absorbed the AMU itself(as it had the added power of the ENTIRE PMM, minus 5 individual universes.) Multiverse + Multiverse = Megaverse. /shrug

Originally posted by leonidas
agreed 100%. 👆

even if, for example, the PMM WAS made using only half the power of the FULL original universe, it wouldn't mean anything from a practical standpoint, and wouldn't mean anything in relation to the characters or....pretty well anything of any relevance that i can think of. /shrug

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ok, now that no one is jumping off any bridges... ftr, the only difference between our stances relates to the source of the AMU. like i said, it seems to me that it's creation is sourced in the first universe. if so, the totality of that first universe is the sum of both the AMU AND the PMM. if that's true the AM would be nearly FULLY multiversal--he is still multiversal regardless, but he'd be missing some to be FULLY multiversal.

you seem to believe that when the first universe broke, all of its power went into the creation of ONLY the PMM. the AMU only came into being...somehow as an evil reflection or balance caused by krona. if your interpretation is correct, then AM really IS megaversal.

tbh it isn't really spelled out very clearly WHICH interpretation is correct so ima drop it and admit to not knowing for sure either way. the confusion for me comes from the fact that krona let 'evil' in, so...maybe the AMU DID just pop into existence as a result of his looking too deeply into things. kinda like what we're doing. lol

Originally posted by leonidas
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ok, now that no one is jumping off any bridges... ftr, the only difference between our stances relates to the source of the AMU. like i said, it seems to me that it's creation is sourced in the first universe. if so, the totality of that first universe is the sum of both the AMU AND the PMM. if that's true the AM would be nearly FULLY multiversal--he is still multiversal regardless, but he'd be missing some to be FULLY multiversal.

you seem to believe that when the first universe broke, all of its power went into the creation of ONLY the PMM. the AMU only came into being...somehow as an evil reflection or balance caused by krona. if your interpretation is correct, then AM really IS megaversal.

tbh it isn't really spelled out very clearly WHICH interpretation is correct so ima drop it and admit to not knowing for sure either way. the confusion for me comes from the fact that krona let 'evil' in, so...maybe the AMU DID just pop into existence as a result of his looking too deeply into things. kinda like what we're doing. lol

As mentioned: I think the retellings of DC's creation-event allude to the AMU being spawned 'ex nihilo', as a form of cosmological balance/necessity(or maybe even spite, if you will) that resulted from Krona's inept meddling... A 'higher authority' wasn't happy that Krona tried to see the unseeable, so he/it lashed back by introducing a universe of pure evil into the original, relatively benign, creation(which is why the AMU actually predates the multiverse-proper.) But I digress... /shrug

Regardless, now that we've ironed-out some of our initial miscommunication, it does seem that our opinions are pretty much the same here(effing hilarious how that works, isn't it? 😂 ) Only difference is basically one, somewhat ambiguous, bit of cosmology regarding the AMU's creation... but like you said: I think we've over-analyzed this WAY more than we ever needed to, because it ultimately doesn't f*cking matter anyway, lol.

tl;dr
WEE AM NURD!!!111!!!1!! duryes

Eternity wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Eternity wins.

Quan! Where ya been?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Quan! Where ya been?

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