Sauron vs. Night King

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Not the same enchantments. And Valyrian swords are no ordinary thing. They were made by Valyrian Sorcerors 8000 years ago. Dobt see why Sauron's Mace is more impressive than that.

Surely LoTR has never seen an Ice Sword before.

You are corner by the fact that the Mighty Sauron's mace will shatter like crystal when met by the Night Kings Sword! Sauron will become a dead Sauron.

I agree but the ice swords aren't as impressive as Sauron's mace either. We have never seen them shown capable of the power of Sauron's mace in the prologue.

Absolutely no proof as it has only shown capable of destroying regular swords. You need to back your claim. It doesn't destroy magically enchanted swords in its own universe.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nothing the swords have done phsyailly compare to the mace. Nothing you said makes it more impressive just some unproven sorcerers with nothing definitive to it.

I agree but the ice swords aren't as impressive as Sauron's mace either. We have never seen them shown capable of the power of Sauron's mace in the prologue.

Absolutely no proof as it has only shown capable of destroying regular swords. You need to back your claim. It doesn't destroy magically enchanted swords in its own universe.

Magilly enchanted swords of GoT. LoTR doesnt have the same enchantment material...Valyrian Steel.

Walkers Swords are so cold they shatter any metal.

The metal contracts till it shatters. Every metal does that. Even Saurons Mace. Now Valyrian steel was made by the Dragon Lords of Valyria. Somehow their enchantments prevent the sword from doing that.

UNLESS UNLESS UNLSESS. Saurons Mace was forged in the same way, IT WILL SHATTER.

My point is valid for GoT has proved it. LoTR has no prove as to say Sauron Mace wobt shatter. You are cornered Quanchi!.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Magilly enchanted swords of GoT. LoTR doesnt have the same enchantment material...Valyrian Steel.

Walkers Swords are so cold they shatter any metal.

The metal contracts till it shatters. Every metal does that. Even Saurons Mace. Now Valyrian steel was made by the Dragon Lords of Valyria. Somehow their enchantments prevent the sword from doing that.

UNLESS UNLESS UNLSESS. Saurons Mace was forged in the same way, IT WILL SHATTER.

My point is valid for GoT has proved it. LoTR has no prove as to say Sauron Mace wobt shatter. You are cornered Quanchi!.

Sauron has fire so not only it can destroy the ring. Heat defeats cold.

No, you have no evidence to support this claim. Sauron's mace never breaks nor does anything special in the GoT universe.

That only applies to GoT materials and magic. No, you continue to hide behind a plot device while ignoring the feats of the mace which is far more impressive than dragon glass or Valyrian steel.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are repeating yourself. The mace has greater feats than the Valyrian steel.

Sauron has fire so not only it can destroy the ring. Heat defeats cold.

No, you have no evidence to support this claim. Sauron's mace never breaks nor does anything special in the GoT universe.

That only applies to GoT materials and magic. No, you continue to hide behind a plot device while ignoring the feats of the mace which is far more impressive than dragon glass or Valyrian steel.

Which evidence proofs that Saurons mace >> Valyrian steel?? None.

Fire cant harm the walkers. And still his mace gets shattered.

I keep repeating it cause you keep repeating a none proved point.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Which evidence proofs that Saurons mace >> Valyrian steel?? None.

Fire cant harm the walkers. And still his mace gets shattered.

I keep repeating it cause you keep repeating a none proved point.

So you don't believe fire can hurt them at all ? So the dragons can't harm them at all ? What proof do you have ?

Evidence supports me not you. What magical weapon has been destroyed by contact with a white Walker ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sauron using it. It looks far more powerful than Valyrian steel in combat. Watch the clip. The mace makes it look pitiful in direct comparison.

So you don't believe fire can hurt them at all ? So the dragons can't harm them at all ? What proof do you have ?

Evidence supports me not you. What magical weapon has been destroyed by contact with a white Walker ?

Imagine the same mace but made of Valyrian steel used by the same guy...i dont see your point. We are talking about the type of material not the item itself! 👇

When the Children of the Forest fired the wood sorrounding the ravens cave the zombis couldnt enter cause they got burnt...Untile the Night king just crossed the fire without getting harm at all.

Evidence is against u.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Imagine the same mace but made of Valyrian steel used by the same guy...i dont see your point. We are talking about the type of material not the item itself! 👇

When the Children of the Forest fired the wood sorrounding the ravens cave the zombis couldnt enter cause they got burnt...Untile the Night king just crossed the fire without getting harm at all.

Evidence is against u.

That was a minor fire he put out due to extreme cold not anything comparable to dragon fire.

Do you think dragon fire won't harm white walkers ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you admit no one from GoT can do so but even if you don't there aren't any GoT examples of anything else comparable to Sauron's feat.

That was a minor fire he put out due to extreme cold not anything comparable to dragon fire.

Do you think dragon fire won't harm white walkers ?

No i dont think so. Fire is fire.

We woulf be speculating that. So far they seem fireproof

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
No i dont think so. Fire is fire.

We woulf be speculating that. So far they seem fireproof

They walked through a minor fire path they didn't withstand dragon fire. Dragon fire is much more powerful than the fire on that path. Undeniable.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So a match has the same concentrated heat as a flamethrower. That's asinine.

They walked through a minor fire path they didn't withstand dragon fire. Dragon fire is much more powerful than the fire on that path. Undeniable.

Does Sauron throw fire like a dragon does?

Am sure the Night King could withstand a dragon's fire for a while.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Does Sauron throw fire like a dragon does?

Am sure the Night King could withstand a dragon's fire for a while.

You have no proof this far. Maybe he will get more impressive feats in season eight. Sauron wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He puts him down with his mace. But he can use fire as spray out from his spirit form in remarkable fashion. He destroys Gandalf's staff.

You have no proof this far. Maybe he will get more impressive feats in season eight. Sauron wins.

Mace Shatters and Sauron becomes a dead guy. Hahaha.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Mace Shatters and Sauron becomes a dead guy. Hahaha.

Do they die ?

😂

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You are speculating that.

Royman Royce sword wasnt made of normal steel...no Knights sword is. Yet it shattered.

No, I'm not. And you assuming every sword held by a knight or lord is anything bar Castle Forged Steel IS a speculation. Not everyone has Valyrian Steel Swords or Dawn.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
No, I'm not. And you assuming every sword held by a knight or lord is anything bar Castle Forged Steel IS a speculation. Not everyone has Valyrian Steel Swords or Dawn.

Okay! So why would Sauron? His mace shatters.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No enchanted weapon has ever shattered. Baseless claim. Sauron kills him with one swing of the mace. What happens when Valyrian steel hits white walkers ?

Do they die ?

😂

Yes they die. And the mace wouldnt kill The Night king. Only Valyrian steel and Obsidian can. Period.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Okay! So why would Sauron? His mace shatters.

Because Sauron's power is infused into it. A power that exceeds the Children and the Walkers by a considerable margin. Give me a reason why the mace WOULD shatter like common steel weapons.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Yes they die. And the mace wouldnt kill The Night king. Only Valyrian steel and Obsidian can. Period.

No Limit fallacy and False equivalency. We can't say for certain whether or not a power never used against a Walker would work or not. A touch from Sauron burned Gil Gilad from the inside out. Think on that, would you?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Because Sauron's power is infused into it. A power that exceeds the Children and the Walkers by a considerable margin. Give me a reason why the mace WOULD shatter like common steel weapons.

No Limit fallacy and False equivalency. We can't say for certain whether or not a power never used against a Walker would work or not. A touch from Sauron burned Gil Gilad from the inside out. Think on that, would you?

Because it isnt enchanted with the same enchantments of the Dragon Lords.

You are SPECULATING that Sauron is a better Magician than the COTF.

The Night King has powerful magic too.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Because it isnt enchanted with the same enchantments of the Dragon Lords.

It does not need to be. All it needs to be is sufficient to the task. And it is. Plus, the mace isn't Sauron's only weapon.

This, combined with his personal powers, his magics, and his Maiar status makes Sauron an engine of mass destruction.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You are SPECULATING that Sauron is a better Magician than the COTF.

Hah! How!? 😆

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The Night King has powerful magic too.

He has powerful magics, but nothing compared to Sauron.

It's been a while since I've watched the LOTR films, but didn't Sauron die from just a slash to the fingers from Narsil wielded by Isildur?