Mandalay Bay Shooting; 50+ dead-200+ injured

Started by quanchi11243 pages

Originally posted by Raisen
sir. how have you been. sir
I tired of kmc as my opposition lost its passion so I went away. I have come back with a renewed sense of purpose to destroy my enemies and browbeat them into submission.
Originally posted by BackFire
My guess on his motives are that he was in a lot of debt because of his gambling habits. Probably lost all of his money and then some, maybe owed money to some bad people. Then maybe kinda fell into a descent of anger and blamed Vegas itself for his problems, and decided to go and kill as many people in Vegas as he could before killing himself. Just my guess, though.
I am sure his motives will be revealed within the next few days but this theory does seem logical. Time will tell.

Originally posted by Kurk
There are literally youtube videos on how to disable those shopping cart devices. Removing a parole bracelet is on a different level though.

Not to mention, we're talking about putting a bracelet on a felon. Something you simply can't do to just anybody.

A lot of ideas I'm hearing on gun control would require a "police state" or serious amendments to the constitution. (How else would you design guns that only work in clubs, if we weren't talking about some type of Metal Gear like anti firearm system..?)

Okay now seeing he owned two planes I'm picturing some coked out piece of shit.

Originally posted by BackFire
He owned planes? Wow.

Okay nevermind then if that's true.

👆

Originally posted by Sable
The gunman who police said sprayed bullets into a crowd of people at a country music festival in Las Vegas was an avid gambler who lived in an upscale retirement community about 80 miles outside the city.

Stephen Craig Paddock, 64, opened fire from his hotel room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino around 10:15 p.m. on Sunday, during a performance by Jason Aldean at the Route 91 Harvest Festival, authorities said. At least 58 people were killed, making it the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history. More than 500 others were injured.

A SWAT team blew open the entry to Paddock’s hotel room with an explosive and found him dead, police said. The hotel was across the street from the outdoor venue.

[b]Paddock had been registered as a guest in the hotel since Sept. 28.

Authorities seized at least one full-automatic rifle and as many as 19 other firearms from the room, The Wall Street Journal reported, citing an unnamed law enforcement official. The cache included AR-15-style and AK-47-style rifles and a large amount of ammunition. Sources also told The New York Times that at least 20 firearms were discovered in the hotel room.

Paddock is reported to have smashed hotel windows prior to the shooting with a hammer-like device. A law enforcement official said two rifles with scopes on tripods were found positioned in front of the broken windows.

Eric Paddock, Stephen Paddock’s brother, told reporters that the suspect was a multimillionaire who invested in real estate and previously worked in accounting. Eric Paddock said his brother was retired and described him as “just a guy” who frequented Las Vegas hotels, gambled and attended shows.

“We are completely dumbfounded,” he told The Orlando Sentinel. “We can’t understand what happened.”

He added that his brother was never violent and had no history of mental illness. He had “no religious affiliation” and “no political affiliation,” he said.

Stephen Paddock gambled more than $10,000 a day numerous times in recent weeks at Las Vegas casinos, according to NBC News, which cited a casino executive and a source who had seen reports to the government on cash transactions. Some of Paddock’s transactions topped $30,000, NBC said. It was unclear whether Paddock was a winner or loser, according to the network.

Paddock had no history of criminality that would raise red flags, police said.

“All of the checks that we have been able to do other than a routine traffic violation here in Nevada and nationwide working with our local FBI partners have been able to find no derogatory history on that individual,” Undersheriff Kevin McMahill said. “It’s one of those really sad, tragic things that a man that’s 64 years old that really had no other reason that we can find at least in his history here to go out and wound that many people.”

Paddock lived with his girlfriend, Marilou Danley, in Mesquite, Nevada. Law enforcement initially named her as “a person of interest,” but later said she was not believed to have been involved with the attack, and is not currently in the country.

Christopher Sullivan, the general manager of Guns & Guitars, Inc., confirmed to ABC News that the store had sold firearms to Paddock in the past. It is unclear if those guns were used in the mass shooting.

“Mr. Paddock was a customer and purchased firearms from our store; however, all necessary background checks and procedures were followed, as required by local, state, and federal law,” Sullivan said. “He never gave any indication or reason to believe he was unstable or unfit at any time. We are currently cooperating with the ongoing investigation by local and federal law enforcement in any way we can.”

Stephen Paddock sold a house he owned in Melbourne, Florida, in 2015, the Sentinel noted, but it wasn’t clear whether he lived there.

Paddock bought his current residence in Mesquite in 2015, according to USA Today. The Sun City Mesquite senior complex features 1,400 homes, an 18-hole golf course, swimming pools and a recreation center.

Paddock owned two airplanes and had a private pilot’s license, according to public records.

A former Florida neighbor said Paddock described himself as a professional gambler and was “very trusting,” the Palm Beach Post reported. Don Judy recalled how Paddock handed him a house key on their first meeting in 2013, asking him to check on his home and welcoming him to use any new equipment inside.

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Originally posted by cdtm
Not to mention, we're talking about putting a bracelet on a felon. Something you simply can't do to just anybody.

A lot of ideas I'm hearing on gun control would require a "police state" or serious amendments to the constitution. (How else would you design guns that only work in clubs, if we weren't talking about some type of Metal Gear like anti firearm system..?)

We should just make crime illegal...wait..

Originally posted by BackFire
He owned planes? Wow.

Okay nevermind then if that's true.

Doesn't mean he couldn't be broke as per your thoughts/reasoning. Even if we say he had about million dollars market value in the planes, he could still have overspent himself well beyond that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I tired of kmc as my opposition lost its passion so I went away. I have come back with a renewed sense of purpose to destroy my enemies and browbeat them into submission. I am sure his motives will be revealed within the next few days but this theory does seem logical. Time will tell.

man. I've always marveled at how awesome you are on KMC...the time and effort you've spent destroying your opposition is unparalleled.

your real life must be breathtaking. I bet you have pet tigers and yachts and shiit. probably have baby chinchillas running all over your gold plated mansion with man servants cleaning up errant feces.

If only there were some places we could maybe look to as examples of how X-gunlaws = X-amount of gun crimes. If only.

Originally posted by Robtard
Doesn't mean he couldn't be broke as per your thoughts/reasoning. Even if we say he had about million dollars market value in the planes, he could still have overspent himself well beyond that.

I had a rich uncle who was a partner in a law firm. borrowed a fortune developing a huge dude ranch. did some unethical crap and ended up losing partnership...the rolls and Mercedes...the mansion...the little jet he had.

ended up living with his wife's parents. it happens

Originally posted by Raisen
man. I've always marveled at how awesome you are on KMC...the time and effort you've spent destroying your opposition is unparalleled.

your real life must be breathtaking. I bet you have pet tigers and yachts and shiit. probably have baby chinchillas running all over your gold plated mansion with man servants cleaning up errant feces.

Great to see huge lines of people waiting to donate blood. You yanks at your best.

Originally posted by Robtard
If only there were some places we could maybe look to as examples of how X-gunlaws = X-amount of gun crimes. If only.

We can with two ways.

2/3 of house
2/3 of the senate

or

Or a constitutional convention with 2/3 of all state legislatures agreeing on the amendment

Originally posted by quanchi112

dang bro. I'm still trying to catch up with you. how many black belts do you have now broseph? I bet you hire Jackie chan just to carry around your black belts.

Originally posted by Robtard
If only there were some places we could maybe look to as examples of how X-gunlaws = X-amount of gun crimes. If only.

Washington D.C., Chicago, and New York City? 👆

If you were talking Japan, they're also very racistly homogenous, so one could argue multiculturalism = gun violence. 😛

Originally posted by cdtm
Washington D.C., Chicago, and New York City? 👆

If you were talking Japan, they're also very racistly homogenous, so one could argue multiculturalism = gun violence. 😛

yeah. I've found the people supporting gun restriction tend to have a very narrow view. the gun nuts are ridiculous also but it's all a matter of opinion on what a gun nut is

Originally posted by cdtm
Washington D.C., Chicago, and New York City? 👆

If you were talking Japan, they're also very racistly homogenous, so one could argue multiculturalism = gun violence. 😛

D.C. and Chicago, most strict gun laws. Somehow Seth Rich was gunned down D.C. in the back during a robbery where nothing was stolen.

Chicago, 10 people die a weekend from gun violence.

To Rob, Adam, and Bashar

should citizens be allowed to have weapons at all?
what restrictions or processes should be in place?

Originally posted by cdtm
Washington D.C., Chicago, and New York City? 👆

If you were talking Japan, they're also very racistly homogenous, so one could argue multiculturalism = gun violence. 😛

And?

The UK, France, Germany, Austria, Holland most of the Scandinavian countries. Australia.

Originally posted by Robtard
And?

The UK, France, Germany, Austria, Holland most of the Scandinavian countries. Australia.

But we are not Europeans or Australians.

"This worked there, so it will work here" doesn't really work.

We keep hearing socialism works, but it fails everywhere it gets installed.

Originally posted by Raisen
To Rob, Adam, and Bashar

should citizens be allowed to have weapons at all?
what restrictions or processes should be in place?

Yes.

I'm more concerned with background checks, cohesion between the various authorities and laws that allow people to get something like an assault rifle on the spot, no check and with nothing more than an ID which could easily be faked.