Originally posted by Sable
You can't lose all your money and prep after?
Originally posted by Robtard
Again. someone doesn't bring 20-whatever rifles to a hotel room on a whim. Guess it's possible, just not likely. IMO, this was planned out long ago, along with offing himself before being caught.
This isn't you implying I don't think it wasn't pre meditated?
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Possible stress at his mother being caught up in Hurricane Irma? The brother said he's been sending texts to her checking up on her and had recently sent her a walker so he seems like he may have cared for his family if nothing else.
yeah. I'm guessing he had a serious mental breakdown. could be wrong. still, he had to rationalize the group to attack. had to have some kind of rationalization.
Originally posted by Robtard
Terrorism?Alright, maybe he had some terminal illness and he wanted to go out like an outlaw, mimicking his father outlawlessnish (i know, not a real word).
One doesn't need a reason to kill people as I have learned over time. People kill each other for any reason at all. I mean Seth Rich was gunned down in the back in a robbery which nothing was stolen. So I have learned people can be killed for any reason under the sun.
Terrorist vs Lone Wolf theory, this is a good article on it.
https://qz.com/1092042/las-vegas-shooting-terrorist-vs-lone-wolf/
Originally posted by Sable
One doesn't need a reason to kill people as I have learned over time. People kill each other.Terrorist vs Lone Wolf theory, this is a good article on it.
https://qz.com/1092042/las-vegas-shooting-terrorist-vs-lone-wolf/
dude. unless you're a complete thrill seeking psycho(which is rare)...people always rationalize a reason. some kind of boogeyman to hate
Originally posted by Sable
One doesn't need a reason to kill people as I have learned over time. People kill each other for any reason at all. I mean Seth Rich was gunned down in the back in a robbery which nothing was stolen. So I have learned people can be killed for any reason under the sun.Terrorist vs Lone Wolf theory, this is a good article on it.
https://qz.com/1092042/las-vegas-shooting-terrorist-vs-lone-wolf/
Yeah, they do. The reason may not be sensible or even make any sort of sense, but there's still a reason.
Look, someone doesn't bring 20 weapons into a hotel room and then murder 58 people without some reason behind. Granted, it could have been some insane reasoning like his dog told him to do it, because someone smirked at his MAGA hat, because he thinks LV is the center of moral corruption, because god, because no god etc. etc. etc. But this guy had a reason or reasons, that I'm sure of.
edit: ^ Raisin beat me to it
Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, they do. The reason may not be sensible or even make any sort of sense, but there's still a reason.Look, someone doesn't bring 20 weapons into a hotel room and then murder 58 people without some reason behind. Granted, it could have been some insane reasoning like his dog told him to do it, because someone smirked at his MAGA hat, because he think LV is the center of moral corruption, because god. because no god etc. etc. etc. But this guy had a reason or reasons, that I'm sure of.
edit: ^ Raisin beat me to it
exactly. people just skew things in their heads. look at some of the stoopid shiit most people argue about.
The gunman who police said sprayed bullets into a crowd of people at a country music festival in Las Vegas was an avid gambler who lived in an upscale retirement community about 80 miles outside the city.
Stephen Craig Paddock, 64, opened fire from his hotel room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino around 10:15 p.m. on Sunday, during a performance by Jason Aldean at the Route 91 Harvest Festival, authorities said. At least 58 people were killed, making it the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history. More than 500 others were injured.
A SWAT team blew open the entry to Paddock’s hotel room with an explosive and found him dead, police said. The hotel was across the street from the outdoor venue.
Paddock had been registered as a guest in the hotel since Sept. 28.
Authorities seized at least one full-automatic rifle and as many as 19 other firearms from the room, The Wall Street Journal reported, citing an unnamed law enforcement official. The cache included AR-15-style and AK-47-style rifles and a large amount of ammunition. Sources also told The New York Times that at least 20 firearms were discovered in the hotel room.
Paddock is reported to have smashed hotel windows prior to the shooting with a hammer-like device. A law enforcement official said two rifles with scopes on tripods were found positioned in front of the broken windows.
Eric Paddock, Stephen Paddock’s brother, told reporters that the suspect was a multimillionaire who invested in real estate and previously worked in accounting. Eric Paddock said his brother was retired and described him as “just a guy” who frequented Las Vegas hotels, gambled and attended shows.
“We are completely dumbfounded,” he told The Orlando Sentinel. “We can’t understand what happened.”
He added that his brother was never violent and had no history of mental illness. He had “no religious affiliation” and “no political affiliation,” he said.
Stephen Paddock gambled more than $10,000 a day numerous times in recent weeks at Las Vegas casinos, according to NBC News, which cited a casino executive and a source who had seen reports to the government on cash transactions. Some of Paddock’s transactions topped $30,000, NBC said. It was unclear whether Paddock was a winner or loser, according to the network.
Paddock had no history of criminality that would raise red flags, police said.
“All of the checks that we have been able to do other than a routine traffic violation here in Nevada and nationwide working with our local FBI partners have been able to find no derogatory history on that individual,” Undersheriff Kevin McMahill said. “It’s one of those really sad, tragic things that a man that’s 64 years old that really had no other reason that we can find at least in his history here to go out and wound that many people.”
Paddock lived with his girlfriend, Marilou Danley, in Mesquite, Nevada. Law enforcement initially named her as “a person of interest,” but later said she was not believed to have been involved with the attack, and is not currently in the country.
Christopher Sullivan, the general manager of Guns & Guitars, Inc., confirmed to ABC News that the store had sold firearms to Paddock in the past. It is unclear if those guns were used in the mass shooting.
“Mr. Paddock was a customer and purchased firearms from our store; however, all necessary background checks and procedures were followed, as required by local, state, and federal law,” Sullivan said. “He never gave any indication or reason to believe he was unstable or unfit at any time. We are currently cooperating with the ongoing investigation by local and federal law enforcement in any way we can.”
Stephen Paddock sold a house he owned in Melbourne, Florida, in 2015, the Sentinel noted, but it wasn’t clear whether he lived there.
Paddock bought his current residence in Mesquite in 2015, according to USA Today. The Sun City Mesquite senior complex features 1,400 homes, an 18-hole golf course, swimming pools and a recreation center.
Paddock owned two airplanes and had a private pilot’s license, according to public records.
A former Florida neighbor said Paddock described himself as a professional gambler and was “very trusting,” the Palm Beach Post reported. Don Judy recalled how Paddock handed him a house key on their first meeting in 2013, asking him to check on his home and welcoming him to use any new equipment inside.