Originally posted by Inhuman
Besides wildlings and white walkers, Jon has fought countless of soldiers in armor in the battle of the bastards. Also the besting Ramsey feat was pretty good. With arrow blocking reactions and all.
Giant melee battles aren't really the same as 1v1 fights. People were getting knocked over by horses mid swing, cut down by arrows and all sorts of other mayhem. And he used a fairly large shield to block those arrows. Also he wouldn't need to be that fast to block the arrows if he held the shield up before Ramsey released the bolt. Dunno if that's how it happened tho
Originally posted by FrothByte
None of these others have ever fought anything as dangerous as a white walker. What opponents have the others fought that are better "quality" than the opponents Jon has fought?
On another note, what would you guys say Jon’s best fears are? I can think of a few off the top of my head: killing Styr, the two white walkers he’s killed, and Karl Tanner (though he kinda got lucky)
Killing Styr isn't a good feat - Styr basically stomped him, until Jon found a hammer. And Karl could've killed him as well, though the enviroment may gave Tanner the edge.
Anyway, it's the second WW fight, him bring able to take on multiple wildlings on once/over a short time, and I think I'm missing something.
Originally posted by Rebel95
Brienne beat the Hound, one of the best fighters in GOT.On another note, what would you guys say Jon’s best fears are? I can think of a few off the top of my head: killing Styr, the two white walkers he’s killed, and Karl Tanner (though he kinda got lucky)
You mean when Brienne beat a sick and weakly Hound?
Originally posted by juggerman
Giant melee battles aren't really the same as 1v1 fights. People were getting knocked over by horses mid swing, cut down by arrows and all sorts of other mayhem. And he used a fairly large shield to block those arrows. Also he wouldn't need to be that fast to block the arrows if he held the shield up before Ramsey released the bolt. Dunno if that's how it happened tho
Then all the more I'm confused why you think Bronne is better than Jon? The only clean one on one fight Bronn won was over the vale knight who was encumbered by armor and who had zero feats for us to know how good he was. Bronn couldn't beat a sand snake (sand snakes who couldn't take down a 1 armed Jamie) and was only able to beat the Dothraki through circumstance. Other than that, Bronn has been fighting in giant melee battles and didn't perform quite as impressively as Jon Snow.
Originally posted by FrothByteBronn > Dragon therefore is > Jon
Then all the more I'm confused why you think Bronne is better than Jon? The only clean one on one fight Bronn won was over the vale knight who was encumbered by armor and who had zero feats for us to know how good he was. Bronn couldn't beat a sand snake (sand snakes who couldn't take down a 1 armed Jamie) and was only able to beat the Dothraki through circumstance. Other than that, Bronn has been fighting in giant melee battles and didn't perform quite as impressively as Jon Snow.