Wolverine vs. MCU Lady Sif

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
The fact that he cannot seem to grasp this is staggering. Using his logic, Garfield Spiderman catching an SUV with one hand (during the bridge scene in ASM), while dangling from a piece of webbing, is all down to the webbing and has zero to do with Spiderman's limb strength. The hammer provided Thor with an achor/tether point, but without the required strength, he would have lost grip on either the car or the hammer while he was taking it back up to the bridge. I mean the guy doesn't seem to realise that even in his own faulty analogy, the rope used to pull the person up would still need to be strong enough to support their weight, or it would break.

The fact that you cant grasp the idea that lifting and holding are two different things is RETARDED.

Holding and lifting are two different things.

Tie a car with a rope and another with a chain and throw ot through a cliff. Which material will tear? Metal or rope?

You know what the difference between lifting and holding is boy?

Lifting: https://www.thefreedictionary.com/lifting

Holding: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/hold

Furthermore lifting involves force while holding requires tensile strength which if you didnt knew arent the samething.

While Thor was holding a car with one hand it was Mjolnir the one lifting it.

The facf that Thor's arm didnt tore appart or that he didnt loose grasp of the car proves his strong tensile strength.

Wolverine's Adamantum bones gives him MASSIVE TENSILE STRENGTH.

You could tie Wolverines arms to trucks moving in opposite directions and these wont tear.

The fact that you think Thor lift up the car proves your Ignorance along with SilentMaster and FrothByte.

You guys clearly didnt know what you were talking about and just said what you saw without actually researching!!!

But as I said before. THOR DOESNT CONCERN THIS THREAD SO REFRAIN FROM INCLUDING HIM HERE.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Only your evidence doesn't actually prove what you think it does, due to your massively biased interpretation of it

I am not interpreting anything.

Am saying what exactly that evidence is pointing.

Else give me an example.

Your ignorance never fails to amuse.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Your ignorance never fails to amuse.

I don't think he understands how a skeletal structure functions and how it differs from ligaments, tendons and muscles.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Your ignorance never fails to amuse.

UNLESS you want to debate SERIOUSLY REFREAIN yourself from posting please.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I am not interpreting anything.

Am saying what exactly that evidence is pointing.

Else give me an example.

I see, so we can add interpreting to the list of words and concepts you don't understand.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Thor doesn't have a powerbelt in the movies.

Well, technically, Iron Man has a belt that belonged to Thor in his possession, as mentioned in Spiderman: Homecoming, but there were zero indications of what its capabilities were. It was just a single line of dialogue from Happy, indicating that it was one of the things being loaded onto the plane at the end, along with the Hulkbuster suit, and a prototype for a new shield for Cap (or something along those lines), IIRC.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I don't think he understands how a skeletal structure functions and how it differs from ligaments, tendons and muscles.

I guess he also thinks something in your hand will suddenly become completely weightless the moment you step onto a plane, helicopter, elevator etc. going upwards.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I guess he also thinks something in your hand will suddenly become completely weightless the moment you step onto a plane, helicopter, elevator etc. going upwards.

He thinks you can hold any amount of weight as long as you have unbreakable bones and a "good grip".

IOW, he doesn't understand physics or Anatomy.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He thinks you can hold any amount of weight as long as you have unbreakable bones and a "good grip".

IOW, he doesn't understand physics or Anatomy.

LOL unless someone actually has the required grip strength to keep hold of the thing (and general body strength for support), as well as muscles, ligaments etc. tough enough to withstand the strain of doing so, the strength of your initial hold or the toughness of your bones alone won't be enough. Bones can't perform those kinds of actions on their own. Otherwise, paraplegics with paralysis caused by things like tissue or nerve damage would still be able to walk.

Anyway, we don't even need to look at the car carry in anyways. Thor tossing that woman all the way back up to Cap is a strength feat that is WAY above anything Logan has ever done. The red car drops off the edge at 0:11-0:12. Thor tosses the woman at 0:23. So, the car was in freefall, under the force of gravity, for 11 seconds before Thor tossed her. Which means it would have traveled 593.3m, or 0.593km, during that time. So, Thor threw that woman over half a kilometer directly upwards. That is an insane feat of strength.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Well, technically, Iron Man has a belt that belonged to Thor in his possession, as mentioned in Spiderman: Homecoming, but there were zero indications of what its capabilities were. It was just a single line of dialogue from Happy, indicating that it was one of the things being loaded onto the plane at the end, along with the Hulkbuster suit, and a prototype for a new shield for Cap (or something along those lines), IIRC.

For the first time in this entire debate youve said something that actually makes sense.

Good Job.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He thinks you can hold any amount of weight as long as you have unbreakable bones and a "good grip".

IOW, he doesn't understand physics or Anatomy.

You wouldnt even have notice my mistake if it werent for FrothByte

Originally posted by FrothByte
I don't think he understands how a skeletal structure functions and how it differs from ligaments, tendons and muscles.

Now I will address your BOLD STATEMENT (there was no need for you to question my knowledge on Biology to make your point).

http://www.innerbody.com/image/skelfov.html

The Ligaments, Tendons, and Cartilages are Bones.

Now going back to Wolverine in the comics this is a VERY DEBATABLE question. No comic book has ever really answered whether Wolverines tendons etc are coated with Adamantium.

Its assumed that the Tendons, ligaments etc are coated with Adamantium fiber which answers to why it is flexible.

Now moviewise, Stryker specifically stated that his Skeleton was quoted with Adamantium (Assumingly Tendons and ligaments too).

Either way good question Froth.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
LOL unless someone actually has the required grip strength to keep hold of the thing (and general body strength for support), as well as muscles, ligaments etc. tough enough to withstand the strain of doing so, the strength of your initial hold or the toughness of your bones alone won't be enough. Bones can't perform those kinds of actions on their own. Otherwise, paraplegics with paralysis caused by things like tissue or nerve damage would still be able to walk.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Anyway, we don't even need to look at the car carry in anyways. Thor tossing that woman all the way back up to Cap is a strength feat that is WAY above anything Logan has ever done. The red car drops off the edge at 0:11-0:12. Thor tosses the woman at 0:23. So, the car was in freefall, under the force of gravity, for 11 seconds before Thor tossed her. Which means it would have traveled 593.3m, or 0.593km, during that time. So, Thor threw that woman over half a kilometer directly upwards. That is an insane feat of strength.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He thinks you can hold any amount of weight as long as you have unbreakable bones and a "good grip".

IOW, he doesn't understand physics or Anatomy.

Go and research on tensile strength.

Either way this thread is SIF VS WOLVERINE not THOR VS WOLVERINE.

Lets just stop debating something that 1. Doesnt belong to this thread AND 2. You clearly dont really understand.

The sad thing is, you actually think you've made a valid point.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The sad thing is, you actually think you've made a valid point.

He is not even intelligent enough to realise that the strength of the adamantium bones (which we are all aware of, despite his ridiculous accusations) isn't the issue with his argument on the subject, yet tells other people they don't understand things. Nor does he seem to understand that actually catching the weight of the car after it had already been in freefall for some time is more impressive than just lifting it off the ground, considering it had been accelerating downwards for several seconds.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The sad thing is, you actually think you've made a valid point.

Samething can be said about you. And atleast i bring evidence along with my comments.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
He is not even intelligent enough to realise that the strength of the adamantium bones (which we are all aware of, despite his ridiculous accusations) isn't the issue with his argument on the subject, yet tells other people they don't understand things. Nor does he seem to understand that actually catching the weight of the car after it had already been in freefall for some time is more impressive than just lifting it off the ground, considering it had been accelerating downwards for several seconds.

You keep talking about something which doesnt concern this thread. You are falling outside this thread's parameters please refrain yourself from doing so.

(Am not gonna keep discussing what you CLEARLY DONT UNDERSTAND).

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Now I will address your BOLD STATEMENT (there was no need for you to question my knowledge on Biology to make your point).

http://www.innerbody.com/image/skelfov.html

The Ligaments, Tendons, and Cartilages are Bones.

Now going back to Wolverine in the comics this is a VERY DEBATABLE question. No comic book has ever really answered whether Wolverines tendons etc are coated with Adamantium.

Its assumed that the Tendons, ligaments etc are coated with Adamantium fiber which answers to why it is flexible.

Now moviewise, Stryker specifically stated that his Skeleton was quoted with Adamantium (Assumingly Tendons and ligaments too).

Either way good question Froth.

Honestly, I do try to avoid from insults and questioning people's knowledge and intelligence. But with the kind of stuff you've been saying, it's kinda hard not to.

Just take your latest reply as an example. Tendons and Ligaments are not bones. Nothing in the article you posted supports this theory. Anyone with basic biology knowledge knows this. They help hold the bones together, thus they can be considered as part of the skeletal system, but they're definitely not bones.

And if you coat these tendons and ligaments with adamantium then Wolverine would not be able to move at all. Adamantium isn't flexible. Tendons and ligaments need to be able to flex.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Honestly, I do try to avoid from insults and questioning people's knowledge and intelligence. But with the kind of stuff you've been saying, it's kinda hard not to.

Just take your latest reply as an example. Tendons and Ligaments are not bones. Nothing in the article you posted supports this theory. Anyone with basic biology knowledge knows this. They help hold the bones together, thus they can be considered as part of the skeletal system, but they're definitely not bones.

And if you coat these tendons and ligaments with adamantium then Wolverine would not be able to move at all. Adamantium isn't flexible. Tendons and ligaments need to be able to flex.

Frothbyte did you even read the article?

Go to the part where it says types of bones all the way down.

https://www.google.com.gt/amp/s/amp.livescience.com/22537-skeletal-system.html

Another webpage. This one has right and clear in the first page. The skeletal system includes tendons and cartilages as well as legaments.

Wolverine's Skeleton is described to be coated with Adamantium. Both movies and comics say so.

Now how it exactly works thats what is debatable amongst the Marvel community.

I cant really answer you how Wolverine can flex his limbs. Thats still not stated.

https://www.quora.com/Are-Logans-joints-coated-in-adamantium

Here. The real topic regarding Wolverine's joints being address.

When we refer to comics and Si Fi science isnt literal. Never question someones intelligence based on fantasy opinions. It doesnt help your case and just makes you look bad.

Dont question my intelligence, question the intelligence of those who wrote the comics/movies.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Frothbyte did you even read the article?

Go to the part where it says types of bones all the way down.

https://www.google.com.gt/amp/s/amp.livescience.com/22537-skeletal-system.html

Another webpage. This one has right and clear in the first page. The skeletal system includes tendons and cartilages as well as legaments.

Wolverine's Skeleton is described to be coated with Adamantium. Both movies and comics say so.

Now how it exactly works thats what is debatable amongst the Marvel community.

I cant really answer you how Wolverine can flex his limbs. Thats still not stated.

https://www.quora.com/Are-Logans-joints-coated-in-adamantium

Here. The real topic regarding Wolverine's joints being address.

When we refer to comics and Si Fi science isnt literal. Never question someones intelligence based on fantasy opinions. It doesnt help your case and just makes you look bad.

Dont question my intelligence, question the intelligence of those who wrote the comics/movies.

I read the article, and nowhere in there does it say that tendons and ligaments are made of bone or are considered as "bone". In the other post you made, nowhere does it say that Wolverine's tendons and ligaments are coated with Adamantium. Please stop making stuff up.