Snoke vs Sidious canon movie force feats only

Started by ares83413 pages

Bringing peace back to the Galaxy for twenty or thirty years certainly isn't nothing. Still, I wish they hadn't reset the universe to ANH.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Facts>>>trolls. Trolls use gifs to rebut evidence because in their own Trumpian insecurities they believe they are proving something.

I agree facts sh_tstomp trolls. What are the facts you brought though? Which on-screen feats put Snoke over Sidious exactly? I hear you citing an interview instead of providing movie feats of this "force power" you keep bringing up.

Just like when we argue Voldemort vs Dumbledore in movies, we care about what happened on screen and not some secondary irrelevant source. What did Snoke bring beyond choking someone over galactic distance or throwing senate pods as ping pong balls? I'm more than interested in having your overview of this impressive force power.

Originally posted by ares834
Bringing peace back to the Galaxy for twenty or thirty years certainly isn't nothing. Still, I wish they hadn't reset the universe to ANH.

What?
isn't their canon clone wars series.

Originally posted by Haschwalth
What?
isn't their canon clone wars series.

What? How is that in anyway relevant to what I said? I'm saying Luke and co seem to have brought a period of peace to the galaxy.

Originally posted by ares834
Bringing peace back to the Galaxy for twenty or thirty years certainly isn't nothing. Still, I wish they hadn't reset the universe to ANH.

What peace? The Empire never went away fully. By all accounts the new Republic was weak and Leia's rebels had to keep fighting for it.

Oh, and so much for the Chosen One and his destiny. He couldn't even restore balance for more a decade or two at best. What a pointless prophecy.

They retreated after the battle of Jakku. Afterwords, there was peace for decades.

And Anakin destroyed the Sith. Now there are only some shitty Sith knock off running around.

Originally posted by ares834
What? How is that in anyway relevant to what I said? I'm saying Luke and co seem to have brought a period of peace to the galaxy.

oh nvm, I thought you meant continuity.

Originally posted by ares834
They retreated after the battle of Jakku. Afterwords, there was peace for decades.

And Anakin destroyed the Sith. Now there are only some shitty Sith knock off running around.

You know, I don't even remember TFA's details, so I'll give you that, but a few years or decades of peace isn't that much really. Not when it all goes to hell right after. Like I said, Luke's action where irrelevant in the big picture. They didn't even give him the honor of training the new hero, Rey. She just kind of knows everything on her own two days after she discovered the Force.

It doesn't really mean much. The dark side is still there and it's back to rolling over the galaxy.

Lmfao at people thinking "Ben beat Luke".

I get that Luke is a weakling relative to what we were expecting, but saying that because Ben collapsed a hut on Luke somehow equates to the latter being better( again, roflmfao, this is one of the most retarded interpretations one can make), on the same grounds of logic, I might as well make a much more reasonable claim that Kenobi blitzed Maul in TPM.

Plus, Ben was 25ish at the time - older than ROTS Anakin or ROTJ Luke.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He would take his saber right off him. His force power is greater. Tell him, Serkis.

lol so part of your argument is some shit that an actor said in an interview?? this ought to be good

lets put this in perspective:

Sidious clouding the Jedi for at least a decade > Snoke connecting Kylo and Rey

Sidious casually frying Luke > Snokes lame taser shot to Kylo

Sidious caught unawares by Vader > Snoke knowing exactly what Kylo was doing only he was dumb enough not to see it was him that Kylo was targeting

Sidious choking Dooku from a galaxy away > Snoke tripping Hux from a ship away

Vader; whom Kylo AND Snoke revere knowing he can't take Sidious alone tries enlisting Lukes help to do so > Kylo killing Snoke single handedly

... and some other stuff that Snoke doesn't even have a comparison for:

Sidious blitzing and killing 3 Jedi in the blink of an eye

Sidious easily killing Savage and toying with Maul at the same time

Sidious stalemating Yoda who was the pinnacle member of the Jedi

Sidious speaking with Anakin telepathically; an ability that wasn't replicated again until bro/sis duo Leia and Luke did

the fact is that Palpatine has two movies worth of feats and a tv show while Snoke has about 5 minutes worth of feats that Palpatine has either matched or bettered in his showings. Snoke is nothing in comparison to Sidious

Snoke is likely below Obi wan level

Snoke is the weakest dark side user ever, like seriously. Maul woul probably roflstomp him and Kylo together.

Snoke demonstrates some decent powers but he's shallow in comparison to Palpatine, both in power and character.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Snoke demonstrates some decent powers but he's shallow in comparison to Palpatine, both in power and character.

I agree, he seems like he could put up a decent fight vs an Elite Sith like Dooku.

Originally posted by Bentley
I agree, he seems like he could put up a decent fight vs an Elite Sith like Dooku.

How? He has no lightsaber feats or combat feats in general. Dooku would eat him alive.

Originally posted by Psychotron
How? He has no lightsaber feats or combat feats in general. Dooku would eat him alive.

It's not like a lightsaber would help much against's Dooku's duelist talent, the fight would be one of Force Power and that's about the only thing Snoke has. With telekinesis, the ability to link minds and lightning, his force abilities are at least adequate.

I never said Snoke would win though.

Snoke turned out to be pretty meh.

Originally posted by Bentley
It's not like a lightsaber would help much against's Dooku's duelist talent, the fight would be one of Force Power and that's about the only thing Snoke has. With telekinesis, the ability to link minds and lightning, his force abilities are at least adequate.

I never said Snoke would win though.

And what happens when a Jedi closes the distance? Even AotC Kenobi can block lightning with a saber.