Hela vs. Wonder Woman

Started by Silent Master15 pages
Originally posted by Slowpoke
All this thread got one weak statement, using a pure magic item to measure strength. BAD BAD argument here.

That magical item has plenty of durability feats to judge it by, what's the problem?

Wait, people are actually arguing that Hela crushed Mjolnir through strength? It seems obvious that she used magic, but I guess it can’t really be proven either way.

I don't want to reply to the ignore list to avoid the same meaningless argument but I will do it for once.

Since the hammer is a magic item, it could be damaged broken by using magic rather than just pure strength. So using it as the only feat is VERY a bad and weak argument here. Other than that, Hela couldn't use her raw strength to kill others. Wonder Woman showed much better feat through the fight against Doomsday.

Wait, people are actually arguing that Hela crushed Mjolnir through strength? It seems obvious that she used magic, but I guess it can’t really be proven either way.

Well they had to since it's the only grasp of Hela's strength. Without it Wonder Woman>>>>>>>>>>her all the ways other than healing factor.

Since Hela was the previous user of the hammer, it's totally reasonable if she has a way to stop and break it through magic.

ares834

Wait, people are actually arguing that Hela crushed Mjolnir through strength? It seems obvious that she used magic, but I guess it can’t really be proven either way.

Explain how it's obvious that she used magic. considering we see her closing her hand and the cracking appeared where her fingers were located.

Because she has magical weapon powers and never displayed nearly the same level of strength again despite growing more powerful.

Yeah it reminds me. Look at the painting, Hela was showing holding the hammer during the conquest.

The hammer was not what Odin had said in the first movie. It was originally forged for Hela.

As the previous and the first holder of the hammer, it makes a lot of sense why she could stop and destroy it, as the "REAL" owner of the hammer.

Originally posted by ares834
Because she has magical weapon powers and never displayed nearly the same level of strength again despite growing more powerful.

The destruction of Mjolnir looked nothing like how she creates weapons.

Try again.

As I said, it can't be proven either way. Read my post next time. 🙂

Originally posted by ares834
As I said, it can't be proven either way. Read my post next time. 🙂

Since Hela's painting had proved that Odin was lying in the first movie, it raises a lot of question to the hammer. It wasn't made to be "worthy to be Thor" at all.

Originally posted by ares834
As I said, it can't be proven either way. Read my post next time. 🙂

We see her crushing it as the cracks correspond with where her fingers are located. if you want to claim something else was involved. you have to provide proof.

Originally posted by Slowpoke
Because they didn't give her pressure, with Wonder Woman keep punch her from everywhere she would be busy dodging and blocking while she could not do so.

Stop avoiding all the advantages using all kind of excuses. Wonder Woman has clear advantage over Hela, all you people got is just the "crushing the hammer" feat which was very weak and ignoring the rest of the movie and all the feats Wonder Woman has shown.

WW is faster than Hela, that's true. But Hela is stronger, is a better fighter, has unlimited weapons, doesn't feel pain and has an insane healing factor. Speed is the only advantage Diana has.

Originally posted by FrothByte
WW is faster than Hela, that's true. But Hela is stronger, is a better fighter, has unlimited weapons, doesn't feel pain and has an insane healing factor. Speed is the only advantage Diana has.

Hela also has far more exp.

Originally posted by FrothByte
WW is faster than Hela, that's true. But Hela is stronger, is a better fighter, has unlimited weapons, doesn't feel pain and has an insane healing factor. Speed is the only advantage Diana has.

Stronger by what? Couldn't kill anyone by raw strength? Had to take quite a few turns to kill a warrior three member? When Wonder Woman could fight Doomsday and use the lasso to hold it for a while, it had to use energy blast not just raw strength to break away. Bad try here.

None of Hela's weapon is better than Wonder Woman's bracelet and shield. Along with the speed and strength advantage, Wonder Woman could easily keep punch Hela till she could not keep up anymore. Even if there were a few blades coming, she could simply block it with the weapons or dodge it.

As I've pointed out, Hela was the first user of the hammer, what Odin said in the first movie about this hammer were lies. It now makes total sense why she could stop and crush the hammer, because the hammer was forged for her.

Originally posted by Slowpoke
Stronger by what? Couldn't kill anyone by raw strength? Had to take quite a few turns to kill a warrior three member? When Wonder Woman could fight Doomsday and use the lasso to hold it for a while, it had to use energy blast not just raw strength to break away?

None of Hela's weapon is better than Wonder Woman's bracelet and shield. Along with the speed and strength advantage, Wonder Woman could easily keep punch Hela till she could not keep up anymore. Even if there were a few blades coming, she could simply block it with the weapons or dodge it.

As I've pointed out, Hela was the first user of the hammer, what Odin said in the first movie about this hammer was lies. It now makes total sense why she could stop and crush the hammer, because the hammer was forged for her.

Crushing Mjolnir. name a WW feat that can compete.

Other than the hammer thing, Hela pretty much has nothing impressive before WW. As I've pointed out, Hela was the first user of the hammer, so it makes total sense why could she smash it.

Wonder Woman was able to block bullets easily from machine guns in close range as we saw in JL, also use her bracelet to reflect and enhance energy.

Originally posted by Slowpoke
Other than the hammer thing, Hela pretty much has nothing impressive before WW. As I've pointed out, Hela was the first user of the hammer, so it makes total sense why could she smash it.

Wonder Woman was able to block bullets easily from machine guns in close range as we saw in JL, also use her bracelet to reflect and enhance energy.

How does being the first user give her the ability to smash Mjolnir?

Originally posted by Slowpoke
Stronger by what? Couldn't kill anyone by raw strength? Had to take quite a few turns to kill a warrior three member? When Wonder Woman could fight Doomsday and use the lasso to hold it for a while, it had to use energy blast not just raw strength to break away. Bad try here.

None of Hela's weapon is better than Wonder Woman's bracelet and shield. Along with the speed and strength advantage, Wonder Woman could easily keep punch Hela till she could not keep up anymore. Even if there were a few blades coming, she could simply block it with the weapons or dodge it.

As I've pointed out, Hela was the first user of the hammer, what Odin said in the first movie about this hammer were lies. It now makes total sense why she could stop and crush the hammer, because the hammer was forged for her.

Hela overpowered Thor. WW struggled with Ludendorph. WW held DD with her lasso while Batman shot it with kryptonite gas. WW never took on a superpowered opponent on her own and dispatched them with the same ease Hela dispatched the Asgardians.

Now Justice League might change things but WW just doesn't have the feats that Hela has.

It's also verd hard to keep punching someone while blocking a whole bunch of projectiles coming your wat.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Hela overpowered Thor. WW struggled with Ludendorph. WW held DD with her lasso while Batman shot it with kryptonite gas. WW never took on a superpowered opponent on her own and dispatched them with the same ease Hela dispatched the Asgardians.

Now Justice League might change things but WW just doesn't have the feats that Hela has.

It's also verd hard to keep punching someone while blocking a whole bunch of projectiles coming your wat.


Wonder Woman defeated Ares, who was much stronger than Ludendorph, bad try here.

WW shieldbashed Doomsday to let it feel pain.
Sliced Doomsday's car throwing at her.
No, she already held Doomsday for a while when it was busting energy, not just using its raw strength and then Batman shot the gas to mainly shoot off its energy blast.

Keep blocking? Wonder Woman is much faster and stronger than Hela, she could easily dodge most of the attacks and block the few left while punching Hela badly. This is what happens when you are much stronger and quicker. Even close range machine gun bullets were like slow motion to her.

Wonder Woman didn't beat Ares through strength, she did it by redirecting his lightning attack. so very bad try there.

What does WW have that even comes close to the strength needed to crush Mjolnir?