Originally posted by Slowpoke
Wonder Woman defeated Ares, who was much stronger than Ludendorph, bad try here.WW shieldbashed Doomsday to let it feel pain.
Sliced Doomsday's car throwing at her.
No, she already held Doomsday for a while when it was busting energy, not just using its raw strength and then Batman shot the gas to mainly shoot off its energy blast.Keep blocking? Wonder Woman is much faster and stronger than Hela, she could easily dodge most of the attacks and block the few left while punching Hela badly. This is what happens when you are much stronger and quicker. Even close range machine gun bullets were like slow motion to her.
WW defeated Ares by redirecting his lightning back at him, not by overpowering him. Besides, what physical strength feats does Ares have that makes him stronger than Thor or Hela?
Slicing a car with her sword. Not exactly a strength feat.
She held DD for a second or two, not exactly that impressive.
WW will definitely land a number of hits on Hela, which Hela will promptly heal from. In contrast, the few hits that land on Diana will cause her injuries she can't heal from immediately.
Originally posted by Nevan
Loki, Asgard resident magic expert sure as hell seemed to think it was a feat of strength/power.He even cites it as a reason for why Thor doesn't stand a chance against her.
Also, if it's done through magic, what stops her from using that magic to crush Wonder Woman?
Not likely, even Loki knew very little about Asgard's past. Especially Hela being the owner of the hammer. So as the REAL owner of the hammer, of course she could stop and destroy it with ease.
If we come to magic, it would be very hard to discuss since there is no clear ways to judge "would it work or not"? Wonder Woman showed she could reflect magic with her bracelet as well.
Originally posted by FrothByte
WW defeated Ares by redirecting his lightning back at him, not by overpowering him. Besides, what physical strength feats does Ares have that makes him stronger than Thor or Hela?Slicing a car with her sword. Not exactly a strength feat.
She held DD for a second or two, not exactly that impressive.
WW will definitely land a number of hits on Hela, which Hela will promptly heal from. In contrast, the few hits that land on Diana will cause her injuries she can't heal from immediately.
Which was Ares' strongest attack, how is it not overpowering Ares at all? As for physical strength we got Doomsday.
Yes it is, if you are not strong enough, you would be blown away by the strong force impact, she was able to slice it without moving back.
She could hold Doomsday, forcing it to combine its energy blast with the raw strength to break it is very impressive, since no Asgardians have shown the power of Kryptonian level. Doomsday was even stronger than normal Kryptonian as well.
A number of hits? Wonder Woman is much faster and stronger, how does Hela hit her at all? Hela's attack would be like slow motion to her, she could punch her and dodge/block easily, along with the lasso to completely shackle her then start the punchfest. Even Buu couldn't keep healing itself against stronger and faster foe.
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Which was Ares' strongest attack, how is it not overpowering Ares at all? As for physical strength we got Doomsday.Yes it is, if you are not strong enough, you would be blown away by the strong force impact, she was able to slice it without moving back.
She could hold Doomsday, forcing it to combine its energy blast with the raw strength to break it is very impressive, since no Asgardians have shown the power of Kryptonian level. Doomsday was even stronger than normal Kryptonian as well.
A number of hits? Wonder Woman is much faster and stronger, how does Hela hit her at all? Hela's attack would be like slow motion to her, she could punch her and dodge/block easily, along with the lasso to completely shackle her then start the punchfest. Even Buu couldn't keep healing itself against stronger and faster foe.
1. We were talking about physical strength, not overall power. If we talk about overall power then Hela's healing factor alone completely trumps anything Diana has.
2. No one ever said Diana isn't strong. But cutting a car in half is not a direct strength feat.
3. WW has never moved in super speed continuously. She does it in bursts and still gets hit by none superspeed persons like Ludendorph and Ares.
Originally posted by FrothByte
1. We were talking about physical strength, not overall power. If we talk about overall power then Hela's healing factor alone completely trumps anything Diana has.2. No one ever said Diana isn't strong. But cutting a car in half is not a direct strength feat.
3. WW has never moved in super speed continuously. She does it in bursts and still gets hit by none superspeed persons like Ludendorph and Ares.
Wonder Woman had proven herself in the fight against Doomsday, a Kryptonian mutant, Hela never did so. She didn't even show much strength factor against the Asgardians like punching them far away or crack their skull.
2. Yes it is, without enough strength, she would have been blown away by the force impact. She had to be at least close to the level of Kryptonians.
3. No? Then how did she keep the fight with Doomsday at all? Remember when Superman went to talk to Lois, she was pretty much holding Doomsday along with a little bit of help from Batman. She also blocked the machine guns in close range with ease. With such advantage, Hela got no chance in combat.
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Not likely, even Loki knew very little about Asgard's past. Especially Hela being the owner of the hammer. So as the REAL owner of the hammer, of course she could stop and destroy it with ease.If we come to magic, it would be very hard to discuss since there is no clear ways to judge "would it work or not"? Wonder Woman showed she could reflect magic with her bracelet as well.
What does being Mjolnir's first user have to do with Hela destroying it?
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Another strength fact: Wonder Woman was able to create force blast with her bracelets to blow away Doomsday for a short distance in the beginning of the fight.
Hela crushed Mjolnir.
BTW, that wasn't a strength feat for WW, that is an specific power she's had since WWI. the movie made this clear.
Originally posted by Slowpoke
Wonder Woman had proven herself in the fight against Doomsday, a Kryptonian mutant, Hela never did so. She didn't even show much strength factor against the Asgardians like punching them far away or crack their skull.2. Yes it is, without enough strength, she would have been blown away by the force impact. She had to be at least close to the level of Kryptonians.
3. No? Then how did she keep the fight with Doomsday at all? Remember when Superman went to talk to Lois, she was pretty much holding Doomsday along with a little bit of help from Batman. She also blocked the machine guns in close range with ease. With such advantage, Hela got no chance in combat.
Dude, Wonder Woman fought DD together with Superman and Batman. You can't keep bringing that fight up and act like it's a solo accomplishment for WW.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Dude, Wonder Woman fought DD together with Superman and Batman. You can't keep bringing that fight up and act like it's a solo accomplishment for WW.
And she was fast enough to catch up with the melee fight, also showed quite a few impressive strength factor, including using the blast to send Doomsday away for a short distance.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Dude, Wonder Woman fought DD together with Superman and Batman. You can't keep bringing that fight up and act like it's a solo accomplishment for WW.
I'm curious.