MCU ranking

Originally posted by FrothByte
2. Strange's cape has never protected him from attacks as strong as the ones the top hitters in this fight will be launching. And no, this isn't an ALL vs. fight. What various illusions does Strange make?

3. An exact location in Norway that he already knew about before hand and had to read books to prepare for.

4. Yeah he can create portals on the floor and in front of him. He still needs time to make them.

2. He is a Reality Warper, the ones he sees fit. Like creating a pot of tea, or filling Thor's Jar with more bear!

3. Yeah, he needed a portal to take him to the exact location of Odin. Isn't like he would teleport them anywhere in Norway!

4. 10 secs the most. The Avengers wouldn't know what hit them! They would be fighting each other while portals appear from nowhere sending them to their graves.

Strange is on top here.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
2. He is a Reality Warper, the ones he sees fit. Like creating a pot of tea, or filling Thor's Jar with more bear!

3. Yeah, he needed a portal to take him to the exact location of Odin. Isn't like he would teleport them anywhere in Norway!

4. 10 secs the most. The Avengers wouldn't know what hit them! They would be fighting each other while portals appear from nowhere sending them to their graves.

Strange is on top here.

2. Show a feat of Strange creating illusions in the middle of a fight.

3. In short, he wasn't able to create a portal without knowing the place first.

4. 10 seconds at the most you say. Wanda can rip him apart in under a second. Thor can blast him in a blink of an eye. Vision and IM can blast him multiple times before 10 seconds is up. Again, this isn't an all vs. all fight. It's a round robin 1 on 1 fight. And even if this was a royal rumble, why are you acting like everyone will just ignore Strange?

Originally posted by FrothByte
4. 10 seconds at the most you say. Wanda can rip him apart in under a second. Thor can blast him in a blink of an eye. Vision and IM can blast him multiple times before 10 seconds is up. Again, this isn't an all vs. all fight. It's a round robin 1 on 1 fight. And even if this was a royal rumble, why are you acting like everyone will just ignore Strange?

Yeah, 10 seconds is an awful long time in a fight. Even some MCU street-levelers/low-metas (below the people on this list) have feats of dropping multiple opponents in that space of time. Daredevil, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, Captain America etc. And Strange is just one guy. And I don't recall any feats of him maintaining active shields while also making portals. He'd basically have to hope that his cloak can protect him while he opened a portal.

Originally posted by FrothByte
2. Show a feat of Strange creating illusions in the middle of a fight.

3. In short, he wasn't able to create a portal without knowing the place first.

4. 10 seconds at the most you say. Wanda can rip him apart in under a second. Thor can blast him in a blink of an eye. Vision and IM can blast him multiple times before 10 seconds is up. Again, this isn't an all vs. all fight. It's a round robin 1 on 1 fight. And even if this was a royal rumble, why are you acting like everyone will just ignore Strange?

2. He RW a beer for Thor in Ragnarok! That proves he can create "illusions". Who said his abilities are limited by combat?

3. Not the place, the exact location. Besides I already showed a clip where he creates a portal without the need of a book.

4. I used 10s as the maximum amount of time he could create a portal. Per seen in the video I posted, he created the portal in 4-6 seconds.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
2. He RW a beer for Thor in Ragnarok! That proves he can create "illusions". Who said his abilities are limited by combat?

3. Not the place, the exact location. Besides I already showed a clip where he creates a portal without the need of a book.

4. I used 10s as the maximum amount of time he could create a portal. Per seen in the video I posted, he created the portal in 4-6 seconds.

2. A lot of martial artists can do a triple flip kick in demonstration. Yet they could never do one in the middle of a fight. There is a huge difference in being able to do something in the calm of your own home and doing the same thing when someone is trying to kill you. Besides, what's he going to do, throw a beer at Thor while he gets zapped with lightning?

3. What I'm asking for is proof that Strange can open a portal to a location he's never been to and do so without needing a lot of prep to do it.

4. 4-6 seconds is still a lot longer than 1 second or half a second.. which is the amount of time a lot of these guys can tear up Strange with their own powers. Ok let's keep this simple. How do you think Strange stops Wanda from tearing him apart with her TK?

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Yeah, 10 seconds is an awful long time in a fight. Even some MCU street-levelers/low-metas (below the people on this list) have feats of dropping multiple opponents in that space of time. Daredevil, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, Captain America etc. And Strange is just one guy. And I don't recall any feats of him maintaining active shields while also making portals. He'd basically have to hope that his cloak can protect him while he opened a portal.

And against the kind of firepower some of these guys have, his cape is not going to be enough. Even if it can somehow protect him from being killed outright, he'd still be knocked around enough that he won't be able to complete that portal.

Originally posted by FrothByte
And against the kind of firepower some of these guys have, his cape is not going to be enough. Even if it can somehow protect him from being killed outright, he'd still be knocked around enough that he won't be able to complete that portal.

Yeah, guys like Iron Man, Vision, Thor, Scarlet Witch (and even Spidey) have attacks that can be executed in about a second or less. So, based on feats, they could tag Strange repeatedly in the time it takes him to open a single portal.

Originally posted by FrothByte
2. A lot of martial artists can do a triple flip kick in demonstration. Yet they could never do one in the middle of a fight. There is a huge difference in being able to do something in the calm of your own home and doing the same thing when someone is trying to kill you. Besides, what's he going to do, throw a beer at Thor while he gets zapped with lightning?

3. What I'm asking for is proof that Strange can open a portal to a location he's never been to and do so without needing a lot of prep to do it.

4. 4-6 seconds is still a lot longer than 1 second or half a second.. which is the amount of time a lot of these guys can tear up Strange with their own powers. Ok let's keep this simple. How do you think Strange stops Wanda from tearing him apart with her TK?

2. He is a sorcerer, he can Warp Reality. We have seen him do it. You saying he can't do it in combat is irrational.

3. I already give you such. Check previous messages.

4. When has Wanda tore apart someone? He still has his Energy manipulation. He can still use his energy weeps and energy shields.

His Cape also still protects him. We have seen his cape attacking Dr. Strange's foes when feeling threatened. It also allows Strange to fly.

All Strange needs is a couple of seconds of distraction for him to make one and done.

Originally posted by FrothByte
And against the kind of firepower some of these guys have, his cape is not going to be enough. Even if it can somehow protect him from being killed outright, he'd still be knocked around enough that he won't be able to complete that portal.

Strange still has his energy shields.

Again we need to take into consideration that Dr. Strange had 1 year of practice until Ragnarok. His powers and abilities have widly increased.

I would bet Strange already knows how to create mirror dimensions!

Strange is #1. His powers and abilities put him there.

That is pure speculation.

Assuming standard gear from the most recent movies:

1. Dr. Strange (with the time stone)
2. Scarlet Witch (unsure where to rank her tbh, but by implied and potential power, I'd say she's near the top)
3. Vision
4. Kurse
5/6. Hulk
7. Iron Man
8. Loki
9. Spiderman

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Again we need to take into consideration that Dr. Strange had 1 year of practice until Ragnarok. His powers and abilities have widly increased.

I would bet Strange already knows how to create mirror dimensions!

Strange is #1. His powers and abilities put him there.

In short you're speculating and don't have proof. Got it.

Originally posted by FrothByte
In short you're speculating and don't have proof. Got it.

Valid speculation per movie timeline!

Just admit putting Strange at #8 was a poor judgement of yours.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Valid speculation per movie timeline!

Just admit putting Strange at #8 was a poor judgement of yours.

I backed up my stats with valid proof, screen feats and logic. You backed yours up with opinion, assumptions and favoritism. Just admit that you completely suck at debating.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Valid speculation per movie timeline!

Just admit putting Strange at #8 was a poor judgement of yours.

Correction, massively biased speculation based on who you like more.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I backed up my stats with valid proof, screen feats and logic. You backed yours up with opinion, assumptions and favoritism. Just admit that you completely suck at debating.

The fact that he considers his personal speculation valid evidence shows that he still doesn't understand the concept of "screen feats only".

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
The fact that he considers his personal speculation valid evidence shows that he still doesn't understand the concept of "screen feats only".

Well, when someone doesn't understand the difference between doing something in the comfort of your own home vs. doing it in the middle of a fight, you know you're not dealing with a very logical person.

Originally posted by FrothByte
someone doesn't understand the difference between doing something in the comfort of your own home vs. doing it in the middle of a fight

Frothbyte list I agree with.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I backed up my stats with valid proof, screen feats and logic. You backed yours up with opinion, assumptions and favoritism. Just admit that you completely suck at debating.

You backed up your claims with poor logic and lack of basic knowledge!

You forgot that Dr. Strange takes place 1 year prior to Thor Ragnarok. You decided to omit such information and now I have to open your eyes.

Just admit you are too stupid when analyzing information!

Originally posted by FrothByte
Well, when someone doesn't understand the difference between doing something in the comfort of your own home vs. doing it in the middle of a fight, you know you're not dealing with a very logical person.

And you have 0 understanding over logic. Clearly evidenced when you decided to place Strange in #8.

It's clear by now that you are BUT A MARVEL FANBOY with 0 knowledge on the character's powers and abilities

It's evident that debating such topics with you is but to debate with a Kid about University stuff.