Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You backed up your claims with poor logic and lack of basic knowledge!You forgot that Dr. Strange takes place 1 year prior to Thor Ragnarok. You decided to omit such information and now I have to open your eyes.
Just admit you are too stupid when analyzing information!
And you have 0 understanding over logic. Clearly evidenced when you decided to place Strange in #8.
It's when you say stuff like this that proves you don't know how feats and proof work. Doesn't matter if it's been a year or 10 since we last saw Dr. Strange, bottom line is you don't know what he did in that time. You can guess at what he did. You can speculate that he's improved, but in the end you have no concrete proof just how much he's improved. No measuring stick.
See the difference between us is you base your argument on what you think happened behind the scenes. I base my arguments on what is actually shown on screen. For example, I know that it took Dr. Strange a number of seconds to make that portal at Loki's feet. I know he had to consult multiple books before he opened that portal to Norway and that he still needed to make hand gestures in order to open that portal. And all this was done after this supposed 1 year that you keep mentioning.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
[B]It's clear by now that you are BUT A MARVEL FANBOY with 0 knowledge on the character's powers and abilitiesIt's evident that debating such topics with you is but to debate with a Kid about University stuff. [/B]
Whether or not I'm a Marvel fanboy has little relevance here considering all the characters here are Marvel. Or did you not realize that?
Originally posted by FrothByte
It's when you say stuff like this that proves you don't know how feats and proof work. Doesn't matter if it's been a year or 10 since we last saw Dr. Strange, bottom line is you don't know what he did in that time. You can guess at what he did. You can speculate that he's improved, but in the end you have no concrete proof just how much he's improved. No measuring stick.See the difference between us is you base your argument on what you [b]think
happened behind the scenes. I base my arguments on what is actually shown on screen. For example, I know that it took Dr. Strange a number of seconds to make that portal at Loki's feet. I know he had to consult multiple books before he opened that portal to Norway and that he still needed to make hand gestures in order to open that portal. And all this was done after this supposed 1 year that you keep mentioning.Whether or not I'm a Marvel fanboy has little relevance here considering all the characters here are Marvel. Or did you not realize that? [/B]
I noticed how his last post directed at you was little more than attempts at insults.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I noticed how his last post directed at you was little more than attempts at insults.
Yeah, one wonders how old he is. Because that last line
debating such topics with you is but to debate with a Kid about University stuff.
is quite frankly, pretty weak and petty. No self respecting adult would ever get insulted by that.
Originally posted by FrothByte
It's when you say stuff like this that proves you don't know how feats and proof work. Doesn't matter if it's been a year or 10 since we last saw Dr. Strange, bottom line is you don't know what he did in that time. You can guess at what he did. You can speculate that he's improved, but in the end you have no concrete proof just how much he's improved. No measuring stick.See the difference between us is you base your argument on what you [b]think
happened behind the scenes. I base my arguments on what is actually shown on screen. For example, I know that it took Dr. Strange a number of seconds to make that portal at Loki's feet. I know he had to consult multiple books before he opened that portal to Norway and that he still needed to make hand gestures in order to open that portal. And all this was done after this supposed 1 year that you keep mentioning.Whether or not I'm a Marvel fanboy has little relevance here considering all the characters here are Marvel. Or did you not realize that? [/B]
Okay okay Froth. Whatever you think.
You are entitled to your opinion in the end. Strange is number 8 👆
Nice judgement.
Re: MCU ranking
Originally posted by Stigma
Rank these MCU characters in order from the most to the least powerful.Let's rank them in order of who can defeat the biggest number of other people from the list.
Some restrictions:
- Iron Man has no prep time here, but he can use his most powerful suit.
- Doctor Strange is without the time gem.
Iron Man
Scarlet Witch
Thor
Loki
Vision
Hulk
Kurse
Dr Strange
Spiderman
I never addressed your question properly.
1. Dr. Stephen Strange:
His powers over reality clearly put him there. The simple fact that none other character in this list have ever faced a sorcerer means it's gonna be troublesome for them.
Strange proved to be a good learner when he faced Kaecillious. Despite being relatively new to magic, he was able to stand on top of Kaicillious and his gang.
Dr. Strange is a quick learner, and also a motivated one. Taking MCU'S Timeline into consideration, the Dr. Strange we saw in Thor Ragnarok had 1 year to learn and become more powerful.
It's evident that Strange has learnt new tricks and improved. He was able to lock Loki in a Pocket Dimension with quite ease. Even a MASTER OF MAGIC like Loki was easily captured by Strange.
We also witness Strange's Reality Warping when he out of nowhere gave Thor a Beer, and furthermore refilled it out of nowhere.
Strange clearly takes #1 place due to his powers. Powers which no other character in this list have ever faced. There isn't really a way to know how would they counter Dr. Strange's powers.
2. Thor/Hulk/Iron Man: #2 would most likely be a tie.
Iron Man would likely use his Hulk Buster Armor.
Hulk would find no trouble going against Iron Man, however he might have issues with Thor.
On the other hand, Thor would likely have trouble against the Hulk Buster armor, since his lightening would have 0 effect as seen in The Avengers.
I'd put them in a tie, just because this would be like a rock, paper scissors scenario
3. Vision: Although we really haven't seen much from Vision, it's sure to say that having an Infinity Stone on his head definitely grants him this position.
Vision was able to one-blast bring down War Machine! An impressive feat. Also he manage to rip apart and crush several Ultron bots with quite ease.
4. Scarlet Witch: Her TK abilities are impressive. She could certainly give a hell of a fight.
Although she has done quite well against the Vision i doubt she could keep it the same against other characters in this list.
5. Loki : Since the OP never stated the gear for Loki i'd place him here. Since the Mind Gem is attributed now to Vision, it means that Loki doesn't possess his scepter (Unless otherwise stated by the OP).
Loki is still a very formidable opponent without the Scepter. His knowledge over magic and his tricky behavior would likely give him an advantage. However without a proper weapon to aid him, Loki isn't that formidable as to put him higher on the list.
6. Kurse: Fighting the God of Thunder certainly grants him this place.
7. Spider-man: The reason i gave Spider Man this spot is the fact that he is relatively young. He is still immature and even childish when fighting.
Also the fact that the Vulture manage to give him a hell of a fight shows that Spider Man has still much to learn.
It's certain however that in future films Spider Man will definitely climb up the ladder.
Originally posted by FrothByte
^ the answer of someone who knows he's been out-debated, is unable to counter the arguments presented, but refuses to admit he was wrong.
The answer of someone mature who knows that you don't understand what you were claiming.
I'd keep myself from arguing rather than keep proving how mistaken your original claim was. 😉
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The answer of someone mature who knows that you don't understand what you were claiming.I'd keep myself from arguing rather than keep proving how mistaken your original claim was. 😉
A mature person would have addressed the points I raised with counter arguments supported by feats and proof. Not run away from them.
Originally posted by FrothByte
It's when you say stuff like this that proves you don't know how feats and proof work. Doesn't matter if it's been a year or 10 since we last saw Dr. Strange, bottom line is you don't know what he did in that time. You can guess at what he did. You can speculate that he's improved, but in the end you have no concrete proof just how much he's improved. No measuring stick.See the difference between us is you base your argument on what you [b]think
happened behind the scenes. I base my arguments on what is actually shown on screen. For example, I know that it took Dr. Strange a number of seconds to make that portal at Loki's feet. I know he had to consult multiple books before he opened that portal to Norway and that he still needed to make hand gestures in order to open that portal. And all this was done after this supposed 1 year that you keep mentioning.Whether or not I'm a Marvel fanboy has little relevance here considering all the characters here are Marvel. Or did you not realize that? [/B]
Here's my last reply, the one that you conveniently sidestepped. So stop going around the bush already and just adress the points raised.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Here's my last reply, the one that you conveniently sidestepped. So stop going around the bush already and just adress the points raised.
The only one going around the bush here is you.
I never said Strange wins because his knowledge increased in that year.
I said Strange wins due to his powers PLUS the Year he was given to train/improve.
So stop modifying my words.