Star Wars: The Mandalorian - Discussion Thread

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Force Users should be able to do a lot of stuff to a Non Force User who has no defense. This mainly is though more an EU thing. Canon seems to be a different thing, cause TCW basically has the Jedi much like their movie counterparts, where Non-Force Users could react and fight them. Rebels also followed that and then there's this show, so it's par the course really.

It's really more of a "how they are on paper vs how they are actually portrayed"

But again it seems like the former is more to the EU, because the times we actually see a Non-Force User fight a Force User is small compared to the times that they don't(barring of course cybernetically augmented that would make more sense or super aliens). It's like the times in DC comics where Batman fights the Justice League without any prep on him, yeah he's done so, but it's not consistent with his character at all.

Originally posted by Surtur
I wondered why Ahsoka battled the chick with the spear and didn't just TK her until she was KO'ed.
Character induced stupidity.

Same reason Rey and Kylo didn't TK-rape the Praetorian Guards.

Originally posted by Galan007
Character induced stupidity.

Same reason Rey and Kylo didn't TK-rape the Praetorian Guards.

That too, PIS/CIS/WIS does exist after all.

Originally posted by Surtur
Grogu tho? Gay

yea i don't like baby yoda's name

Now we know what a lightsaber cannot go through

Beskar armor

Why do people selectively have autism about this type of stuff. Why didn't Obi-Wan just ragdoll Jango in AotC? Or Grievous? Or Durge? Or Pre Visla?

Pure autism.

If Jedi's could do such a thing, then why would Mandalorians ever have been an enemy that could challenge them?

Originally posted by Kento
If Jedi's could do such a thing, then why would Mandalorians ever have been an enemy that could challenge them?

You know that just put a thought to my head. We keep saying or reading that the Mandalorians could fight Jedi.

Ok...but how? HOW? Is it 1 on 1? Is it armies vs armies? Is it in fleet engagements? Is there prep work involved? What?

We're never given the how, all we're given is that they can...which is pretty meaningless all things considered.

Jango's fight with Obi-Wan was circumstantial, from what I've gather Tano vs the Mando was like...10 seconds? Don't really think much can be taken from that.

Vizla vs Maul, Maul wasn't going for any Force use and just fighting like a regular guy.

From what I'm seeing thus far in the Canon, these fights aren't really long or there's circumstances that favor the Mando in question.

From my KOTOR playing days from what I remember from the lore you needed high level jedi to deal with mandalorians. And they needed Revan himself to kill Mandalore(well one Mandalore). It was said only people like Revan impressed the Mando's.

Whether that is due to his power and skill or the fact he was willing to go to war when not all jedi were...or a combination of two, is hard to say.

It really depends on the medium. Some authors (like Karen Traviss) think mandos and other non force sensitives can challange force users while in other mediums they wouldn't stand a chance. Star Wars as a multimedia franchise was never very consistent

It depends on if the jedi decides not to use the force. Some people can challenge a jedi in a purely physical fight if they have weapons that can withstand a lightsaber and are highly skilled. I think Revan decided to just do a purely physical battle with their leader.

Ahsoka could have just TK'ed the woman she fought. She didn't. I dunno, honor? Civilized fighting? PIS? Choose your excuse.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Why do people selectively have autism about this type of stuff. Why didn't Obi-Wan just ragdoll Jango in AotC? Or Grievous? Or Durge? Or Pre Visla?

Pure autism.

The answer is so we can get a nice fight scene, but the in universe answer is...reasons? I don't know. Maybe they do not find it "honorable" to just take you out that way. Though we have seen they have been willing to let their "honor" slide if it means doing something for the greater good, like when Mace was going to kill a "helpless" Palpatine. Obi Wan thought the death of Grievous would end the war so he should have just ended it immediately. And I still find it incredibly dumb of the jedi council to send ONE jedi to fight Grievous lol. Remember they all thought this would end the war.

But given the level of technology in star wars if they are going to have a non-force user take on a jedi and not immediately get owned it should be because they utilize tech to their advantage not because the jedi just...forget they have super powers.

It's still baffling Mando didn't even know what the force was.

If the Empire has fallen, why did Ahsoka still call him "Grand Admiral" Thrawn and not just "Thrawn"? He hasn't even been connected to the Empire since before ANH. 😕

And do we really think Thrawn is still masterminding things behind the scenes? Why would he still be having the Magistrate conquer worlds and such?

Originally posted by Surtur
It depends on if the jedi decides not to use the force. Some people can challenge a jedi in a purely physical fight if they have weapons that can withstand a lightsaber and are highly skilled. I think Revan decided to just do a purely physical battle with their leader.

Ahsoka could have just TK'ed the woman she fought. She didn't. I dunno, honor? Civilized fighting? PIS? Choose your excuse.

Yeah, a novel is more useful to see this kind of things. Like, I remember in Dark Disciple the author pointed out when someone like Ventress or Vos decided to use the Force while fighting against Moregi, or when they just tried to subdue it with their natural strength

Originally posted by Sheev
If the Empire has fallen, why did Ahsoka still call him "Grand Admiral" Thrawn and not just "Thrawn"? He hasn't even been connected to the Empire since before ANH. 😕
To drive the point home for the viewers, I'd guess.

Originally posted by Sheev
And do we really think Thrawn is still masterminding things behind the scenes? Why would he still be having the Magistrate conquer worlds and such?
Really just depends what Thrawn has been up to since the Rebels finale, but I certainly hope he's not... Planet conquering for the lulz isn't his typical MO.

Originally posted by Sheev
If the Empire has fallen, why did Ahsoka still call him "Grand Admiral" Thrawn and not just "Thrawn"? He hasn't even been connected to the Empire since before ANH. 😕

And do we really think Thrawn is still masterminding things behind the scenes? Why would he still be having the Magistrate conquer worlds and such?

Because the Gideon is still called Moff Gideon. Other Moffs and Captains and Lieutenants still have their ranks. And the last time we saw Thrawn, he was still a Grand Admiral. Besides, he left a big enough impact on Ahsoka and the Rebels that I doubt she thinks of him as anything else. The Empire may have fallen, but holdouts still technically classify as remnants of an empire/army that never formally surrendered.

And if anyone would be masterminding things, it would be him. We only know Ezra got himself and Thrawn dragged into Hyperspace. We don't know anything that happened after that yet so he could still be a very real threat.

Reading articles speculating on what other jedi might show up on the series, maybe even next season and not this season.

People are citing Sebastian Stan(Winter Soldier from the Marvel movies) as a good candidate to play Luke Skywalker if he ever shows up.

Never thought about it before...but yeah he would be good for the role. Has the right look, etc.

If the Magistrate is working for Thrawn and Thrawn is still with the "Empire" why didn't the Magistrate have Stormtroopers at her disposal like Gideon does?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
If the Magistrate is working for Thrawn and Thrawn is still with the "Empire" why didn't the Magistrate have Stormtroopers at her disposal like Gideon does?

She wanted people who had good aim.

Originally posted by Surtur
It depends on if the jedi decides not to use the force. Some people can challenge a jedi in a purely physical fight if they have weapons that can withstand a lightsaber and are highly skilled. I think Revan decided to just do a purely physical battle with their leader.

Ahsoka could have just TK'ed the woman she fought. She didn't. I dunno, honor? Civilized fighting? PIS? Choose your excuse.

Jedi aren't just skilled swordsmen with telekinesis. Even in the films the Jedi are able to augment their physical abilities with the Force, giving them superhuman strength and speed. Between that and the fact that they can see the future to know what their opponent is going to do it should be literally impossible for a non-Force sensitive human being to fight a Jedi in hand to hand.

It's stupid writing and every time it happens it is stupid writing tbh.