I have no doubt they will give more slack to Gunn than they would Carano if they felt she presented a problem.
Gunn had progressives defending him(his stuff was apparently okay, but Roseanne's was not cuz reasons), Carano has conservatives defending her. Which voices do you feel Disney gives more of a shit about? Which side do you feel they are more likely to try to placate?
There will never be a "republicans buy shoes too" moment from these people.
Originally posted by Surtur
I have no doubt they will give more slack to Gunn than they would Carano if they felt she presented a problem.Gunn had progressives defending him(his stuff was apparently okay, but Roseanne's was not cuz reasons), Carano has conservatives defending her. Which voices do you feel Disney gives more of a shit about? Which side do you feel they are more likely to try to placate?
There will never be a "republicans buy shoes too" moment from these people.
The difference though in that what Gunn said was in the past (way in the past, like before Disney even hired him), whilst Rosanne was current stuff she was tweeting.
That said I agree Gina should not be punished for posting her dumb opinions. Its not like shes being racist or rapist.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
The difference though in that what Gunn said was in the past (way in the past, like before Disney even hired him), whilst Rosanne was current stuff she was tweeting.That said I agree Gina should not be punished for posting her dumb opinions. Its not like shes being racist or rapist.
The problem with this is I just don't believe that if Roseanne had tweeted what she did years before hand and it came up that they would have behaved any differently.
Speculation of course, but I feel the way things have been this way in the country for the past 5 years yeah she would have got it whether it was current or tweeted years earlier.
She did poke fun at trans pronouns "my pronouns are beep/boop" lol. Is that as bad as racism? No, it's not even transphobic but for people who think it is yeah it's just as bad as if she said "mexicans are dumb".
Originally posted by Surtur
I have no doubt they will give more slack to Gunn than they would Carano if they felt she presented a problem.Gunn had progressives defending him(his stuff was apparently okay, but Roseanne's was not cuz reasons), Carano has conservatives defending her. Which voices do you feel Disney gives more of a shit about? Which side do you feel they are more likely to try to placate?
There will never be a "republicans buy shoes too" moment from these people.
Stop being a boob, they rehired Gunn because he brings in high millions (GOTG 1-2 netted over 1.6 billion), that's what they ultimately care about. They factor in what was said, how it was said and when it was said in regards to the fallout of bad rep vs earnings and potential future earnings. Gunn landed up, Roseanne didn't.
Yes, they will. It's not just your dreaded "Leftist" buying tickets, merchandise and subscriptions.
Calls To Fire ‘The Mandalorian’ Star Gina Carano Trend On Twitter Again
This is getting sad
With that said, I fail to see the issue with comparing religious beliefs to political ones. What she said was stupid. But was it firing worth? lol no Heck, if anything it only shows she is more correct then most realize.
Originally posted by ares834
And she's outta here!With that said, I fail to see the issue with comparing religious beliefs to political ones. What she said was stupid. But was it firing worth? lol no Heck, if anything it only shows she is more correct then most realize.
Originally posted by ares834Using the (incomparable) suffering of Jewish people under Nazi Germany to make people feel sorry for you by painting yourself as the victim is bad and abhorrent, yeah. Disney made the right choice.
And she's outta here!With that said, I fail to see the issue with comparing religious beliefs to political ones. What she said was stupid. But was it firing worth? lol no Heck, if anything it only shows she is more correct then most realize.
And Jews are an ethnoreligious group, its not just a belief.
Originally posted by DarthAloysiusThat being abhorrent is something we all agree (I hope). But what has that to do with her performances on screen? Does it make her a bad actress? Does she say the same things as Cara Dune on the Mandalorian?
Using the (incomparable) suffering of Jewish people under Nazi Germany to make people feel sorry for you by painting yourself as the victim is bad and abhorrent, yeah. Disney made the right choice.And Jews are an ethnoreligious group, its not just a belief.
Originally posted by Total Warrior
That being abhorrent is something we all agree (I hope). But what has that to do with her performances on screen? Does it make her a bad actress? Does she say the same things as Cara Dune on the Mandalorian?
Way to miss the point. If somebody murders/rapes someone, are you also going to stand up and say, "But the character is innocent!"?
She got fired because what she said violated the principles represented by Disney, namely, "Don't be a f.cking a..hole."
Originally posted by DarthAloysius
Using the (incomparable) suffering of Jewish people under Nazi Germany to make people feel sorry for you by painting yourself as the victim is bad and abhorrent, yeah. Disney made the right choice.And Jews are an ethnoreligious group, its not just a belief.
People make stupid and hyperbolic statements like this all the time. The amount of things that get compared to the Holocaust or to Nazis is innumerable. Hell there is even an internet “rule” for this phenomenon called Godwin’s law. What she said was undoubtedly stupid and insensitive but I wouldn’t go nearly as far as to call it “abhorrent”.
And no, she did not actually compare the supposed persecution of Conservatives to the suffering of the Jewish people.
So they gave in to the mob of left wing snowflakes. Pathetic? Yes. Surprising? No.
Originally posted by Dreampanther
Way to miss the point. If somebody murders/rapes someone, are you also going to stand up and say, "But the character is innocent!"?She got fired because what she said violated the principles represented by Disney, namely, "Don't be a f.cking a..hole."
That's a big fat Nope. It's peachy keen if you agree with their choice, but do not gaslight others into believing this was done because they have principles because they do not. They hired back James Gunn. On top of that, I doubt Disney will be cutting ties with every single actor that, over the past 4 years, made hyperbolic statements comparing Trump to Hitler, Republicans to nazis, ice detention centers to concentration camps, etc.
Originally posted by Dreampanther
Way to miss the point. If somebody murders/rapes someone, are you also going to stand up and say, "But the character is innocent!"?She got fired because what she said violated the principles represented by Disney, namely, "Don't be a f.cking a..hole."
Nonsense. What Gina said was inappropriate and stupid. However, it was not even close to being as bad as Pedro Pascal calling Trump supporters Nazis, High Republic authors constantly bashing white people or Lucasfilm removing John Boyega from a poster to appease the racist Chinese government.
An ideologically left wing company giving in to an angry left wing Twitter mob. That's what this is.
I can only hope that people who are just as upset about this as I am actually stop giving Disney/Lucasfilm their money. It's probably the only effective way to push back against woke cancel culture.
Originally posted by ares834No, I would say this particular brand of rhetoric is exclusive to conservative circles, who seem intent on profilerating the myth that they are somehow being persecuted.
People make stupid and hyperbolic statements like this all the time. The amount of things that get compared to the Holocaust or to Nazis is innumerable. Hell there is even an internet “rule” for this phenomenon called Godwin’s law. What she said was undoubtedly stupid and insensitive but I wouldn’t go nearly as far as to call it “abhorrent”.
And no, she did not actually compare the supposed persecution of Conservatives to the suffering of the Jewish people.
“How is that any different from hating someone for their political views.” Is what the post said, “this” being how the Jews were treated by the Nazis. I’m not sure how this cannot be considered a comparison, that was the point of the post.
Originally posted by JediMaster97
Nonsense. What Gina said was inappropriate and stupid. However, it was not even close to being as bad as Pedro Pascal calling Trump supporters Nazis, High Republic authors constantly bashing white people or Lucasfilm removing John Boyega from a poster to appease the racist Chinese government.An ideologically left wing company giving in to an angry left wing Twitter mob. That's what this is.
I can only hope that people who are just as upset about this as I am actually stop giving Disney/Lucasfilm their money. It's probably the only effective way to push back against woke cancel culture.
But...but...pedro pascal must be a conservative then, we've been told only they pull this bullshit.
Time to cancel this dude. Fire him.