Mass Shootings in America Thread

Originally posted by Surtur
But you clearly see that you said my premise was this would stop everything. You admit you were mistaken in that, correct? The posts prove it. Explain how it's a strongman, given what your posts literally say.

In reality: you're just a troll. Jadens facts changed nothing. We need more armed people, show me some stats for after that happens and we'll talk.

Strongman? Lolz. Anyhow.

You invented the "prevent everything" angle and pushed it on others. No one said that cept you, sport. Now do more flips.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
yup, he got humiliated again, so it looks like the next 3-5 pages are about to get #squirted.

I'm done entertaining his shitshow. Let him have his precious "I was right again!" last word.

Saw a clip CNN aired, apparently the mother of one of the murdered kids wanted airtime so she was given it, had to turn it off after a short time, her grieving over the loss of her child was truly awful. She started pleading for Trump to finally do something so this doesn't happen again. Trump won't; he don't care. Gun lobby is billions strong.

Originally posted by Surtur
So wait, why on Earth do your stats prove that more security in schools will not help? That's silly as hell.

I asked you how many schools even have armed security. Your answer is...?

Best I could find was a survey that said 68% of schools have either armed guards or police patrols.

As for your other statement, you're getting yourself mixed up again.

I gave stats that unarmed people have stopped more shootings than armed people.

I gave examples of where armed guards didn’t prevent mass shootings.

To balance that ill give the list of school shootings where an armed guard DID stop the shooting.

Here is the list

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Originally posted by Robtard
I'm done entertaining his shitshow. Let him have his precious "I was right again!" last word.

that usually ends it. let the baby have his way. never say anything here which contradicts his worldview or face the #squirting.

Originally posted by jaden101
Sandy Hook and this latest one both had armed security, off the top of my head. I'd need to look up the others.

So you're saying that if it doesn't stop 100% of the crimes, it's a worthless idea?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So you're saying that if it doesn't stop 100% of the crimes, it's a worthless idea?

No I leave that kind of logic to pro gun people who say that gun control legislation won't prevent all deaths.

Originally posted by jaden101
No I leave that kind of logic to pro gun people who say that gun control legislation won't prevent all deaths.

So you agree it's an idea worth considering?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So you agree it's an idea worth considering?

That would on a number of factors really.

Who would be employed as armed guards, what weapons would they be issued. What level of training and supervision would they have. What rules of engagement would be.

Originally posted by jaden101
That would on a number of factors really.

Who would be employed as armed guards, what weapons would they be issued. What level of training and supervision would they have. What rules of engagement would be.

Fair enough.

About your stats on how many shootings are stopped via unarmed and armed civilians.

What is the %'s of unarmed civilians vs armed civilians present at these shootings?

Originally posted by Silent Master

What is the %'s of unarmed civilians vs armed civilians present at these shootings?

clown

Originally posted by Silent Master
Fair enough.

About your stats on how many shootings are stopped via unarmed and armed civilians.

What is the %'s of unarmed civilians vs armed civilians present at these shootings?

Well, gun ownership, in general, reduces crime.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Fair enough.

About your stats on how many shootings are stopped via unarmed and armed civilians.

What is the %'s of unarmed civilians vs armed civilians present at these shootings?

I have no idea.

Originally posted by DarthSkywalker0
Well, gun ownership, in general, reduces crime.

Seems a very loose correlation that would need context.

Is it that gun owners commit less crime?

Is it gun ownership prevents crime by other gun owners or non gun owners.

How was the data compiled? By comparing crime rates by state to gun ownership by state or comparing the US as a whole to other countries?

Originally posted by jaden101
I have no idea.

Wouldn't those numbers be kind of important if you wanted to be honest about any comparison?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Wouldn't those numbers be kind of important if you wanted to be honest about any comparison?

you're the one desperately trying to factor schoolkids into that percentage, but hey don't let that stop you from performing your intellectually dishonest clownshow. 👆

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
you're the one desperately trying to factor schoolkids into that percentage, but hey don't let that stop you from performing your intellectually dishonest clownshow. 👆

I obviously don't mean including school kids. but if it makes you feel better I'll spell it out.

How many adult unarmed civilians vs adult armed civilians.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I obviously don't mean including school kids. but if it makes you feel better I'll spell it out.

How many adult unarmed civilians vs adult armed civilians.

hey, if you truly weren't going there, i take it back.

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm done entertaining his shitshow. Let him have his precious "I was right again!" last word.

Saw a clip CNN aired, apparently the mother of one of the murdered kids wanted airtime so she was given it, had to turn it off after a short time, her grieving over the loss of her child was truly awful. She started pleading for Trump to finally do something so this doesn't happen again. Trump won't; he don't care. Gun lobby is billions strong.

Lol, you're just a troll. You've been trolling for pages. You got exposed, and trolled some more. But yeah, enjoy the pretend win.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
hey, if you truly weren't going there, i take it back.

I should have been clearer as I can see why you thought what you did and yes. that would have been massively intellectually dishonest of me.

Originally posted by jaden101
Seems a very loose correlation that would need context.

Is it that gun owners commit less crime?

Is it gun ownership prevents crime by other gun owners or non gun owners.

How was the data compiled? By comparing crime rates by state to gun ownership by state or comparing the US as a whole to other countries?

This metanalysis from the Journal of Criminal Justice analysis each of the studies and makes sure to differentiate the good and bad data.https://www.hoplofobia.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Gun-Crime-Methodological-Review-of-the-Evidence.pdf

It finds the gun ownership reduces crime. This happens because an armed citizenry can threaten with guns hence why Concealed Carry Laws unequivocably reduce crime and why mass shootings happen in gun-free zones.