Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
True, but neither of them have a defense to Superman if he were to Speed Blitz from range with Heat Vision...
Superman never speed blitzed with heat vision.
There's also Vision to contend with, who could turn intangible and Superman wouldn't be able to do anything to him then.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Superman never speed blitzed with heat vision.There's also Vision to contend with, who could turn intangible and Superman wouldn't be able to do anything to him then.
There is zero reason why he should not be able to Speed Blitz while firing Heat Vision...
Does Superman have to carry a car in one hand while simutaneously firing Heat Vision to reasonably conclude that he can do so?
This is no different...
Unless you can provide a good reason why he cant do both, then he can do it...
Afterall, characters fight to their full potential in a Forum Fight...
Edit: Vision has shown nowhere near the speed to contend with Supers either...
Supes can move like Flash can; everything around him is moving in slow motion compared to him...
Starting distance in a Forum Fight is 100 yards; Supes would be upon them and beating the hell out of them before they even knew they were being attacked...
Vision wouldn't have time to even react properly if Supes went all out on the Avengers and blitzed them with Super Speed...
Originally posted by Silent Master
I believe his point is that we argue in character.
Can you give me one legit reason why he cant use Heat Vision + Speed Blitz?
"Because he's never done so before" is a weak argument and wont cut it; its in his powerset and there is nothing to logically stop him from doing so...
Originally posted by Silent Master
As we argue in character, how is saying that sed character has never done something a weak argument?
Characters also fight to the best of their ability in a Forum Fight...
Now killing isn't in Supes character; you can say that logically...
But you and Froth trying to argue that Supes cant use multiple Superpowers at once "because he's never done so" is very weak...
Once again, unless you have a logical reason why he cant, then he absolutely can (especially since he HAS used multiple superpowers at the same time)...
Characters fight to the best of their ability in a Forum Fight afterall...
Just gonna leave this here at timestamp 2:48 to 3:08
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Just gonna leave this here at timestamp 2:48 to 3:08
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Silence these clowns trying to come up with BS reasons why Supes wont destroy the Avengers...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Characters also fight to the best of their ability in a Forum Fight...Now killing isn't in Supes character; you can say that logically...
But you and Froth trying to argue that Supes cant use multiple Superpowers at once "because he's never done so" is very weak...
Once again, unless you have a logical reason why he cant, then he absolutely can (especially since he HAS used multiple superpowers at the same time)...
Characters fight to the best of their ability in a Forum Fight afterall...
Characters act in-character.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderNo, they fight based off their character traits unless you want to forego the characters and just debate based off power sets.
Characters fight to their full potential in a Forum Fight...Supes is too fast for any member of the Avengers when he uses his superspeed...
As a result, Thor nor any member of the Avengers are touching him without PIS being a factor...
Supes wrecks the Avengers 10/10...
Nah, he was tagged by a human, WW, Aquaman, etc.
Thor leaves the hammer on his chest and shoots his load into Superman's mouth with asgardian fury. Superman swallows at superspeed but he likes it.
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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
👆Silence these clowns trying to come up with BS reasons why Supes wont destroy the Avengers...
I don't wanna take sides, but the excuse that Superman can't or won't use multiple powers at once is heavily incorrect. I believe he uses up to 4 powers in that scene (super strength, flight, super speed and HV.), and as for wether or not it's in character, well, this proves that when sufficiently pushed, Superman is ready, willing and capable of doing what he deems needed in order to win.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I don't wanna take sides, but the excuse that Superman can't or won't use multiple powers at once is heavily incorrect. I believe he uses up to 4 powers in that scene (super strength, flight, super speed and HV.), and as for wether or not it's in character, well, this proves that when sufficiently pushed, Superman is ready, willing and capable of doing what he deems needed in order to win.
You're aware that the scene you posted isn't canon to DCEU, right?
Originally posted by Silent Master
You're aware that the scene you posted isn't canon to DCEU, right?
You are aware you said "in character". Superman, the character. What I posted was relevant to Superman, the character. I'm forgoing the restriction of movie only to make a point here. I proved that it is not only possible, but probable that Superman uses more than a singular power. This is true for any medium series or continuity you wish to utilize. Superman flies, has strength, and speed, all at once before. So my question is why you would say "He just won't do that, it's never done that way in the movies". Unfortunately, he's never fought these opponents in the movies either, and the vice versa is also true. Everything we do here is going to be a supposition. Even of we broke everything down to raw powersets as Quan just mentioned, it is still a subjective opinion.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
You are aware you said "in character". Superman, the character. What I posted was relevant to Superman, the character. I'm forgoing the restriction of movie only to make a point here. I proved that it is not only possible, but probable that Superman uses more than a singular power. This is true for any medium series or continuity you wish to utilize. Superman flies, has strength, and speed, all at once before. So my question is why you would say "He just won't do that, it's never done that way in the movies". Unfortunately, he's never fought these opponents in the movies either, and the vice versa is also true. Everything we do here is going to be a supposition. Even of we broke everything down to raw powersets as Quan just mentioned, it is still a subjective opinion.
This thread is about DCEU Superman, thus my statement was in regards to DCEU Superman.
You know this, but you obviously are more interested in trolling, so have fun.
Originally posted by Silent Master
This thread is about DCEU Superman, thus my statement was in regards to DCEU Superman.You know this, but you obviously are more interested in trolling, so have fun.
No, it's not trolling at all, it's making a point. Ok, let me put this another way.
Superman's ability to make diamonds out of coal with his bare hands is well known. DCEU Superman can do it too, because he shares that powerset. Now, Clark in any good guy universe could be as rich as Bruce Wayne by turning a sack of coal you can buy at a gas station into diamonds more pure and clear and better cut than any on Earth. Would he do this in character? No. Can he do it? Absolutely. Now imagine that same pressure applied to say Vision's gem, or Cap's skull.
Another example: We never see DCEU, or any other form of Superman take a dump. It's not in his character because it's never seen. But can he do it? I think he can, and moreover must, because he is still a biological entity.
And another. Superman doesn't masturbate. It's never seen, thus not in character. But CAN he? I think you know the answer.
Ok, now over the top examples aside, We HAVE seen Superman deploy multiple superpowers at once before, Superspeed, Flight and Superstrength. We have also seen him deploy heat vision. Why could he not deploy heat vision while flying and using speed? "Because we've never seen him do so, thus it's not within character!" My reply will now be, "We don't see him poop either, do we conclude he is constantly constipated?"
The argument has no foundation beyond it was not onscreen and therefore is impossible, despite being very possible.
So I make this suggestion in leau of discrediting a method of attack that is POSSIBLE. Instead of arguing whether or not superman should or would do a particular attack well within his power set, and if pushed hard enough would definitely use, why not use your teams abilities to COUNTER said attack? I can see at least two ways to stop Superman cold as he makes that kind of attack. Let me give you a hint.
One is a glowing jewel.
The other is a clap on roids.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
No, it's not trolling at all, it's making a point. Ok, let me put this another way.Superman's ability to make diamonds out of coal with his bare hands is well known. DCEU Superman can do it too, because he shares that powerset. Now, Clark in any good guy universe could be as rich as Bruce Wayne by turning a sack of coal you can buy at a gas station into diamonds more pure and clear and better cut than any on Earth. Would he do this in character? No. Can he do it? Absolutely. Now imagine that same pressure applied to say Vision's gem, or Cap's skull.
Another example: We never see DCEU, or any other form of Superman take a dump. It's not in his character because it's never seen. But can he do it? I think he can, and moreover must, because he is still a biological entity.
And another. Superman doesn't masturbate. It's never seen, thus not in character. But CAN he? I think you know the answer.
Ok, now over the top examples aside, We HAVE seen Superman deploy multiple superpowers at once before, Superspeed, Flight and Superstrength. We have also seen him deploy heat vision. Why could he not deploy heat vision while flying and using speed? "Because we've never seen him do so, thus it's not within character!" My reply will now be, "We don't see him poop either, do we conclude he is constantly constipated?"
The argument has no foundation beyond it was not onscreen and therefore is impossible, despite being very possible.
So I make this suggestion in leau of discrediting a method of attack that is POSSIBLE. Instead of arguing whether or not superman should or would do a particular attack well within his power set, and if pushed hard enough would definitely use, why not use your teams abilities to COUNTER said attack? I can see at least two ways to stop Superman cold as he makes that kind of attack. Let me give you a hint.
One is a glowing jewel.
The other is a clap on roids.
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Excellent, excellent, post...
Silence them once and for all...
Superman wins...
Game over...