Superman vs. Avengers

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm trying to meet you halfway, now at what point in the fight did that scene happen?

I mentioned already that it was immediately after Zod discovered flight

Originally posted by juggerman
I mentioned already that it was immediately after Zod discovered flight

So, about three-quarters of the way through the fight?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So, about three-quarters of the way through the fight?

Like I said, I'm meeting you halfway.

So you agree that the scene in question happened approximately three-quarters of the way through the fight, right?

It's not like I can just decide the moment happened at a point when it didn't happen. My question was is your point now that he didn't do this quick enough?

So you agree that it happened approximately three-quarters of the way through the fight, right?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So you agree that it happened approximately three-quarters of the way through the fight, right?

Point?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So you agree that it happened approximately three-quarters of the way through the fight, right?

Are you going to get to the point? Remember, it was you that is pinning all the responsibility of all those 5000 lost lives completely on Superman irrespective of the fact that it was in fact Zod who initiated, and continued AND perpetuated every hostile action in that fight. You claim Superman wasn't trying hard enough to move the fight away from the city, and yet when he tried, Zod deliberately drew him right back into the city, even going as far as to drop a satellite on Metropolis. This demonstrates that Superman had no choice in where the fight was going to happen. Zod had hostages everywhere, he had targets of opportunity, and unlike Clark, Zod deliberately targeted those civilians, making him the murderer, and not Clark despite what you may think of it.

And the funny thing is, no matter how hard you press this, you have no way to prove if Superman is even responsible directly for any of those deaths, since we do not see any action he performs directly attributing to a death.

Once he answers my question.

Since it appears he's not going to answer my question, I'm going to drop my attempt to meet him halfway and go back to my original point of disagreeing that knocking someone in the air is proof that you're trying to relocate a fight to a less populated area. Hell, Captain America has knocked people into the air during fights before.

^ But Captain America doesn’t have the strength to BFR.

Also if we are talking about Collateral damage, then we know the Avengers are also responsible for plenty of that, given that was what initiated the Sokovia accords.

If we are talking about straight up killing someone in a fight, then again many of the Avengers have done that too.

So, if Cap was stronger those times he knocked people into the air would magically transform into attempts to move the fight to a less populated area?

Yeah, I'd imagine he'd use that as a tactic to get villains away from civilians pretty often. Especially if those villains are Kryptonian level and can survive the BFR.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Since it appears he's not going to answer my question, I'm going to drop my attempt to meet him halfway and go back to my original point of disagreeing that knocking someone in the air is proof that you're trying to relocate a fight to a less populated area. Hell, Captain America has knocked people into the air during fights before.

I'm sorry I can't be here 24/7 bud 😂

Silent master getting shat on lmao

Originally posted by juggerman
I'm sorry I can't be here 24/7 bud 😂

Not buying your argument that punching people into the air equals trying to move a fight to a less populated area. Knocking people into the air is common place in fights where people have some level of super strength, I can name close to a dozen just off the top of my head.

You don't have top buy it. You've been shown to be wrong several times over at this point and as I've said earlier, I don't expect you to actually change your mind. You want to paint Supes in a way you don't anyone else in similar instances. Meh

Originally posted by juggerman
You don't have top buy it. You've been shown to be wrong several times over at this point and as I've said earlier, I don't expect you to actually change your mind. You want to paint Supes in a way you don't anyone else in similar instances. Meh

What specifically have I been shown to be wrong on in this thread?

Originally posted by Silent Master
What specifically have I been shown to be wrong on in this thread?

If I post it will you admit you were wrong?

Originally posted by juggerman
If I post it will you admit you were wrong?

If they're examples where I was actually proven wrong, absolutely.