Superman vs. Avengers

Started by Silent Master44 pages

Thor hit him yes, there is no proof it killed him. For Scarlet Witch, I assume you mean the bomb. That was not a result of her acting recklessly. If she hadn't acted the bomb would have killed her, Captain America and an unknown number of civilians. She merely lost control of her power while trying to get rid of it.

I haven't seen the Hulk versus Abomination fight in years, so I can't really comment right now. But seeing as I've already admitted several members of The Avengers could be considered guilty of depraved-heart murder or out-and-out murder. Your claim that I'm specifically targeting Superman or acting in a bias manner honestly has no basis in reality.

It actually does seeing as how you ONLY seem to address Superman as "murderer" and no one else. Seems like you have a personal grudge against the character.

And come on now we know thor murdered that Giant. And the countless others were defending themselves at that point since Thor just started attacking them all. And Wanda could have lifted Crossbones up away from the building. She had the opportunity to do so yet didn't. Seems to fit with your argument that Superman could have done things differently but didn't.

Also I'll clue you into my Hulk point without some weird need for you to acknowledge timing. Hulk at no point tried to move the fight to a less populated area. In fact it could even be argued that Banner entering the fray caused more damage and deaths than would have occurred if he stayed away since Abom was really only attacking the military and wanted "a real fight". Innocent people would not have given him that fight so he might have just left.

I've addressed all the characters you've mentioned, so you saying I only address Superman is exceedingly dishonest.

Although it's interesting how the only one you're defending is Superman. If you want to see the truly biased person, look in a mirror.

Like I said earlier I don't expect you to change your mind. You're dug in. IMO Superman doesn't fit the definition of a murderer, even a depraved heart murderer. Neither do the other heroes imo. There's only so much you can do in those instances. Could he have done it differently? Maybe, maybe not. But his whole fight with Zod was a direct result of his defense of human life. So I guess we can agree to disagree

Originally posted by Silent Master
I've addressed all the characters you've mentioned, so you saying I only address Superman is exceedingly dishonest.

Although it's interesting how the only one you're defending is Superman. If you want to see the truly biased person, look in a mirror.

I would have defended any of the others had you said they were murders too. Except maybe Thor.

When have you ever addressed any other hero as "the murderer"? Look at you being all dishonest 😂

Yes there is only so much you can do in certain instances. However, in my opinion trying to move the fight to a less populated area was well within Superman's ability. He just never tried. That is why I believe he is guilty of depraved-heart murder.

Originally posted by juggerman
I would have defended any of the others had you said they were murders too. Except maybe Thor.

When have you ever addressed any other hero as "the murderer"? Look at you being all dishonest 😂

Really, please point out where you defended Black Widow Tony and the Hulk after I mention arguments can be made that they are guilty as well.

And I believe he isn't especially when Zod specifically chose to move it right back to the city when it began moving away

Originally posted by juggerman
And I believe he isn't especially when Zod specifically chose to move it right back to the city when it began moving away

It was never moving away from the city, it was only moving to a different part of the city.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Let's see, I've acknowledged that Black Widow has likely murdered people and that it's entirely possible an argument could be made for stating that the Hulk and Tony might be guilty of depraved-heart murder themselves for certain events.

It's like you don't even read my responses.

Again, I didn't say you didn't acknowledge they might have killed. It's like you try to spin responses to try to look better. You specifically made it a point to call Superman "the murderer" yet it seems like you don't go out of your way to do that with others. That's what comes off as biased. I don't see how I can be clearer....

Originally posted by Silent Master
It was never moving away from the city, it was only moving to a different part of the city.

It was. Sorry you don't like it

Originally posted by juggerman
Again, I didn't say you didn't acknowledge they might have killed. It's like you try to spin responses to try to look better. You specifically made it a point to call Superman "the murderer" yet it seems like you don't go out of your way to do that with others. That's what comes off as biased. I don't see how I can be clearer....

So, why are you upset that I called Superman a murderer?

Originally posted by juggerman
It was. Sorry you don't like it

Prove it.

Originally posted by Silent Master
So, why are you upset that I called Superman a murderer?
I'm not. This whole thing began because I question why you think that. You explained your reason. I disagreed. We went back and forth for a bit and then I asked why you single him out since your reason should apply to many others. And again if you called Scarlet Witch a murderer of the same thing this would have been the result as well

Originally posted by Silent Master
Prove it.

Are you going to prove it wasn't?

Originally posted by juggerman
Are you going to prove it wasn't?

You made the claim, that means their burden is on you.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You made the claim, that means their burden is on you.

You didn't make a claim?

Originally posted by juggerman
I'm not. This whole thing began because I question why you think that. You explained your reason. I disagreed. We went back and forth for a bit and then I asked why you single him out since your reason should apply to many others. And again if you called Scarlet Witch a murderer of the same thing this would have been the result as well

The last several pages say otherwise.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The last several pages say otherwise.

No they don't

Originally posted by juggerman
You didn't make a claim?

No, I questioned your claim.