Originally posted by Silent Master
If you want to consider it a separate claim rather than me questioning one you made, fine. However, you still made the original claim so the burden is on you.
I don't see how "they specifically didn't do that because they specifically did this" can be considered not a claim. So you'll back it right? I mean yes I made the initial claim so I assume I'd go first but afterwards you'll back yours right?
Originally posted by juggerman
I don't see how "they specifically didn't do that because they specifically did this" can be considered not a claim. So you'll back it right? I mean yes I made the initial claim so I assume I'd go first but afterwards you'll back yours right?
Again, I'm fine with considering it a separate claim. However, you still made the original claim so that means the burden is on you. Once you back up your claim, I'll do the same.
Bet. Ok in the clip you see Superman take the fight to the air immediately. They didn't clear all the skyscrapers but in the air means away from most of the people. Superman then starts pushing Zod very far at 13 seconds in. Now if you pause it at about the 15-16 second mark (right before that last punch) you can see the buildings behind Zod are much smaller. Like MUCH smaller. This means that had the fight stayed that high up and/or kept being pushed, they would not have been as much of a danger to as many people. Furthermore, with the buildings vastly decreasing in size means it was more likely they were exiting the city rather than going deeper in. Hundred of sky scrapers will likely have more people in them during working hours (when this took place) than hundreds of much smaller buildings.
Before they cleared it though, Zod recovered enough to move the fight lower ending the possibility of it moving further away. Whether Supes did it intentionally can be debated but given the actual footage it is clear that the fight was moving as I've said.
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None of that proves Superman was hitting Zod away from the city. you'd have to prove Zod's exact location in the city just before Superman first punched him and then his location after the last punch. then we compare how far away Zod is to the closest boarder at the start and his distance at the end.
All of that points to what I just said. You can disagree with the outcome of course but the evidence is correct. They were clearly moving towards smaller building which means less populated and probably out of the city itself. And if they were above all the buildings, which had they kept going they would have been, then it would be away from the city.
Now it's your turn. Back your claim that they were moving further into the city
Moving the fight above the city is moving the fight away from the city. Just like Kal moved Doomsday away from the city. Doesn't necessarily need to cross a border to move away from it. And I never said they actually left.
It's fine if you disagree. Now back your case that they were moving more into the city
Your "evidence" didn't prove what your claim.
But if you want a response. Ok, even after that last punch Zod was still surrounded by tall buildings and when he started flying away from Superman, he was flying past tall buildings. so there is no proof that Superman was either punching him away from the city or to a less populated area.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Your "evidence" didn't prove what your claim.But if you want a response. Ok, even after that last punch Zod was still surrounded by tall buildings and when he started flying away from Superman, he was flying past tall buildings. so there is no proof that Superman was either punching him away from the city or to a less populated area.
I already stated he was still around the tall buildings. But had he kept going in that direction he would have been where I said he would be. I said they were going towards smaller buildings, not that they made it