Superman vs. Avengers

Originally posted by juggerman
Sure does. You don't agree with the conclusion. Simple

No it doesn't and I've explained why it doesn't.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No it doesn't and I've explained why it doesn't.

Yes it does and I've explained why it does.

Originally posted by juggerman
Yes it does and I've explained why it does.

Your claim was that Superman was punching Zod away from the city, at no point have you actually proven that Zod was being punched closer to the border, instead of further away.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Your claim was that Superman was punching Zod away from the city, at no point have you actually proven that Zod was being punched closer to the border, instead of further away.

They were moving away from the skyscrapers and would have been well above the smaller buildings had they continued. Above the city is away from it. You can argue intent but you can't argue the direction the fight was going in at that point

Again, your claim was that Superman was punching him away from the city, so far you haven't actually proven that Zod was heading closer to a border, rather than away from it.

And you haven't proven they were going further into the city, or even another part of it. For all we know the edge of the taller buildings were also the edge of the city limits. So neither one of us can prove it without a doubt. However, the evidence points more strongly in my direction than yours especially since as I said before, if they actually cleared the skyscrapers then they would have been well above the buildings and less of a danger to people

I don't have to disprove your claim, you have to prove it.

I had to back it. I did

No, you posted a clip that didn't support your claim, I don't consider that "backing it up". backing it up would be posting proof that your claim was true.

This is how debates go. If it were black and white then there would be no need to discuss it. As it stands my evidence fully backs my claim. All you've managed to do is say "I don't think so" but haven't been able to give any real reason. Let's look at the actual facts:

1. Superman took the fight high in the sky where property damage and casualties would be lessened
2. Superman was pushing Zod towards an area where the building were much smaller
3. They never made it due to Zod bringing the fight closer to the ground and away from where he was being pushed.

All that supports my point. Again you disagreeing doesn't make it invalid

IYO, maybe. IMO it doesn't even come close to proving your claim true.

BTW, Zod is the one that took the fight to space, so this idea that Zod was trying to keep the fight in the city is laughable. it was just a fight, neither person had any intent other than winning.

Originally posted by Silent Master
IYO, maybe. IMO it doesn't even come close to proving your claim true.

BTW, Zod is the one that took the fight to space, so this idea that Zod was trying to keep the fight in the city is laughable. it was just a fight, neither person had any intent other than winning.

I don't think anything will alter your opinion as I've said many times here. But as much as you don't like it the evidence points to exactly what I've said it does.

It didn't have to be intentional which is why I said you could argue that point. But the fact remains that's where the fight was headed. Zod also brought it back from space too.

Whether or not Zod brought the fight back to the city doesn't change the fact that he's the one that brought the fight to space. Which proves that his intent was not to keep the fight in the city, rather his intent was to win

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, it doesn't.

Yes, it does

I disagree

I know

I guess on topic Superman wins

Yes, the murderer wins. Which is something I said close to 40 pages ago.

I wasn't telling you. I was casing my vote. Not every thing is about you. You're not my real dad

I was merely agreeing with you and pointing out that I was always leaning towards the murderer winning.