Superman vs. Avengers

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you watched the film and missed the part in which the team was trying to talk to him and hitting him multiple times then you're lying to yourself let alone me.

Batman when he wanted to prepped and defeated Superman. Superman isn't too fast for people to successfully attack him. Oh the feats only matter posters are silly.

Did you miss the scene where Superman was fighting in super-speed? That would be a display of the "powers/abilities" and a "feat" one shouldn't deny.

Do the Avengers have prep here? Do the Avengers have k-nite? Neither, so your point is pointless.

Originally posted by Robtard
😂 @ the "Avengers stomp" people. I know Justice League was meh sauce, but there's no denying Superman's powers/abilities. Fanboys be fanboys.

Don't know about the others, but I'm currently undecided on who wins the match. I do know it won't be a stomp on either side, and that's what I'm arguing against.

Not sure about Vision or Post-Ragnarok Thor but Superman could handle the others soundly IMO.

Originally posted by Robtard
Did you miss the scene where Superman was fighting in super-speed? That would be a display of the "powers/abilities" and a "feat" one shouldn't deny.

Do the Avengers have prep here? Do the Avengers have k-nite? Neither, so your point is pointless.

They don't need it. WW obviously hurt him with a headbutt. Thor can do far more damage than she can and we aren't even focusing on the Hulk or Vision. We see other characters withstand hv as well. I am not denying his speed but just like in the film he's going to hit and harder than a WW headbutt.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Don't know about the others, but I'm currently undecided on who wins the match. I do know it won't be a stomp on either side, and that's what I'm arguing against.

"The stomp" angle is silly on either side, as Superman's not taking out Hulk, Thor or Vision in one hit. He would turn the other Avengers into a fine red mist though.

Originally posted by Robtard
"The stomp" angle is silly, as Superman's not taking out Hulk, Thor or Vision in one hit. He would turn the other Avengers into a fine red mist though.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not in character to kill. How badly was Batman hurt after the scuffle who he had a real beef with.

Tell that to Zod.

But if you need to restrain Superman in order to force a win, that tells everyone how you actually feel. Regardless, he doesn't need to kill to win.

Originally posted by Robtard
Tell that to Zod.

But if you need to restrain Superman in order to force a win, that tells everyone how you actually feel. Regardless, he doesn't need to kill to win.

He fights in character as everyone does. If you want to argue powerset alone I suggest cbr because it's just a few feats you need to worry about it and then you can go to town.

Just keep in mind guys that neither Flash nor Superman have been depicted surpassing the speed of light!

So a lighting or Lasser should hit them!

Poll doesn't lie speed kills.

Originally posted by playa1258
Poll doesn't lie speed kills.

Speed didn't kill Doomsday...

Batman's kryptonite spear did.

Originally posted by playa1258
Poll doesn't lie speed kills.

None of the Avengers have the speed to react.

Won't matter because the usual suspects will keep this going for thousands of replies.

Originally posted by playa1258
None of the Avengers have the speed to react.

Won't matter because the usual suspects will keep this going for thousands of replies.

You pretend he defeated everyone in a millisecond. You're a liar.

Originally posted by playa1258
None of the Avengers have the speed to react.

Won't matter because the usual suspects will keep this going for thousands of replies.

Why you claim such? Wanda could grab hold of Superman via TK!

Hulk could still give him a hell of a fight just like Doomsday did.

And Superman isn't fast enough to escape lassers and lightnings without getting touched.

Ok let's put some proper thought into this. If Superman fought each of these opponents individually then here is how it will go:

vs. IM - Tony gets torn apart

vs. Hulk - Hulk becomes a punching bag. Hulk has trouble enough landing hits on Thor, as long as Superman utilizes his superspeed then he should have no issues dodging Hulk's blows. It will take some time to knock Hulk out considering how tough Hulk is, but eventually it will happen.

vs. Scarlet Witch - if Superman hits her before she gets her shields up the gets splattered. If she does get her shields up then she survives for a few seconds. Maybe her TK is strong enough to throw Superman around a bit, maybe not. If she can touch him with telepathy that could really mess him up, problem is I don't see how that can happen with her shields up. Eventually her shields will fail and she gets splattered.

vs. Thor - Thor will put up his lightning aura and that will zap Superman everytime he gets near. Doesn't matter if Superman can bullrush Thor before he gets it up, fact is Thor isn't going to get KO'd with one hit so we know he'll have a chance to surround himself with lightning. After that then everytime Superman hits Thor he also gets zapped in return. It will then boil down to which hits harder: Superman's punches or Thor's auto-lightning. Of course if Superman is smart he can just lazer eye Thor, but to do that he'll need to hold still which will allow Thor to retaliate with more concentrated lightning.

vs. Vision - Vision will go intangible and all of Superman's speed will be for naught. Then it becomes a stalemate and ends up being a contest of attrition. If you ask me, I think Superman gets tired of his superspeed first before the android powered by an infinity stone gets tired of being intangible.

Now, that's IF they decide to fight solo. If they work together, then every time Superman tries to take out one of the heavy hitters it means he'll give the others time to either attack or strategize. To be honest, I don't think any of the Avengers has the firepower to take Superman out, at least not without repeatedly bombarding him. Their best chance is to try and catch him and hold him down while SW puts him in a telepathic fugue.

Either that, or get him still long enough for Vision to plunge his hand through his brain.

So I think the Avengers have a chance at winning but only if they fight together. If they don't, then Vision probably ends up alone in a stalemate that lasts for a whole day or two until Superman gets tired.

Originally posted by FrothByte

vs. Thor - Thor will put up his lightning aura and that will zap Superman everytime he gets near. Doesn't matter if Superman can bullrush Thor before he gets it up, fact is Thor isn't going to get KO'd with one hit so we know he'll have a chance to surround himself with lightning. After that then everytime Superman hits Thor he also gets zapped in return. It will then boil down to which hits harder: Superman's punches or Thor's auto-lightning. Of course if Superman is smart he can just lazer eye Thor, but to do that he'll need to hold still which will allow Thor to retaliate with more concentrated lightning.

Superman no sold Doomsday's lightning/energy blast which literally vaporized everything in its path.

Thor's lightning "field" isn't doing anything to him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman no sold Doomsday's lightning/energy blast which literally vaporized everything in its path.

Thor's lightning "field" isn't doing anything to him.

Electricity isn't the samething as a Laser.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Electricity isn't the samething as a Laser.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman no sold Doomsday's lightning/energy blast which literally vaporized everything in its path.

Thor's lightning "field" isn't doing anything to him.

The energy blast that didn't destroy the slab of cement that Batman was hiding under?