DarthSkywalker0
The Insane Jedi Master
Originally posted by dadudemon
The accuracy of your statement is demonstrably provable as incorrect according to these two sites:https://www.thisisnetneutrality.org/
https://www.fastmetrics.com/internet-connection-speed-by-country.php
Also, do you feel that making that connection is not correct? As in, internet speed and net neutrality are not apples to apples?
If you're making a case for why we need net neutrality by making this connection (which you aren't), that's a great point. Some countries on this list, without net neutrality, have highly restricted and filtered internet via the government. That does not seem like a great case for why we should avoid net neutrality, at all. Seems like speeds and access to the internet are great cases in favor of net neutrality.
The first site is the problem as it considers any regulation of the internet to be equitable to net neutrality. It isn't. There are very few countries which have actual net neutrality. South Korea's net neutrality is vastly different than the States. They have the exact opposite problem. ISPS are paying fees to communication companies. To quote Business Korea,
The South Korean government is sticking to the current net neutrality policy because the approach in the U.S. and South Korea DIFFERS for net neutrality rules. The U.S. government has kept the tough net neutrality policies that prohibit communication service providers from charging fees to content and platform service providers such as Google, Facebook and YouTube in order to encourage them grow.However, the Trump administration has announced to revise the net neutrality rules as various types of charging systems are being developed and communication service providers show a remarkable stagnation in growth. It will gather the opinions of communication service providers to come up with new net neutrality policies.
However, South Korea has an approach to net neutrality rules in the perspective of business interest infringement of users, instead of service providers. It still believes that the guidelines given by the MSIT will improve user convenience and benefits through the cooperation between network service providers and users. Accordingly, the guidelines grant a net neutrality exception with rational reasons but the rationality will be regulated after.[QUOTE]
They are now having to focus on reverse discrimination. Norway was number 2 on the most recent list and they also do not the fit the United States mold of net neutrality. Norway has a co-regulatory approach rather than actual net neutrality. The EU's net neutrality is vastly different the United States's regardless. They do have rules against data discrimination, but they are not administered in the same way.
[QUOTE]During the legislative process in the Council, application-agnosticism was waived by the introduction of a provision to “equally treat equivalent types of traffic”, seemingly allowing classes of traffic on the Internet!
So certain classes like video streaming vs kmc can be given different amounts of bandwidth. What is funny about Sweden is that they have been fighting net neutrality ever since the policy was up for consideration. Regardless, the laws of net neutrality have many more loopholes then the States laws and are not enforced nearly as harshly. This applies to all European countries on the list. So I do not think it is really comparable. When I made my statement regarding countries on the top ten that was regarding the list in 2015. That was the only list I could find, so that probably prompted the confusion. Most citizens in Europe even note net neutrality is a minor issue their due to all of the competition. It was implemented due to censorship and has many loopholes regarding data descrimination.
Also, do you feel that making that connection is not correct? As in, internet speed and net neutrality are not apples to apples?
I was simply using the example of Europe to indicate that net neutrality does positively effect internet speed. The Europeans have realized this hence why they have so many loopholes in regard to data discrimination.
If you're making a case for why we need net neutrality by making this connection (which you aren't), that's a great point. Some countries on this list, without net neutrality, have highly restricted and filtered internet via the government. That does not seem like a great case for why we should avoid net neutrality, at all. Seems like speeds and access to the internet are great cases in favor of net neutrality.
As far as access goes, the Europeans have been seriously complaining about the lack of free speech. Europe has never had free speech in regards to their internet. But it was my bad for assuming that Europe's policies had stayed static as of 2015. But there is no evidence to believe, that net neutrality is responsible for the speedy internet especially given the time it takes for net neutrality to take into effect. All studies ran on the EU claim their internet speed comes from their competition. As far as free speech goes, many countries which are labeled free in terms of their internet don't have net neutrality and vice versa. So I doubt there is any real correlation there.