Originally posted by RobtardFeats don't determine superiority. They never have. It's who is more powerful than the other in a direct confrontation. Snoke also bridged two minds and was beyond Rey and Ben in direct conflict. Luke for sure wasn't but you're a feat guy. Feats only matter posters are adorably naive.
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Anyhow. But it's easily Palpatine, Yoda or Luke now. Luke's force feat in ep8 was most impressive.
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Palpatine was Yoda's equal, sport.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Luke was unable to be harmed physically but as I said Kylo's impulsivity clouds his judgment.We see them go at it. One guy left the fallen for dead. We already saw their fight. Accept the facts not your own speculation.
Nah, not according to Luke. Luke also already lost to one. Whoops. Snoke is beyond either in direct conflict. Just stop. Rey also put him on his ass.
Until i see either Kylo or Rey manifesting themselves Planets, if not Solar Systems away the way Luke is no argument of yours is valid Quanchi.
I am not debating Snoke vs Luke.
Am saying stop being ignorant by saying Kylo and Rey can even oppose Luke.
Originally posted by Josh_AlexanderI wish you understood the analogy I'm going to make but I'll do so anyway. It's like saying Luke is better chest exercises but that doesn't take into account his formidability.
Until i see either Kylo or Rey manifesting themselves Planets, if not Solar Systems away the way Luke is no argument of yours is valid Quanchi.I am not debating Snoke vs Luke.
Am saying stop being ignorant by saying Kylo and Rey can even oppose Luke.
What happened to Luke when he went after Ben ?
They did in the film. Quit ignoring the facts and talking about another feat from the grumpy old man on a nexus. It was an amp IMO.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Feats don't determine superiority. They never have. It's who is more powerful than the other in a direct confrontation. Snoke also bridged two minds and was beyond Rey and Ben in direct conflict. Luke for sure wasn't but you're a feat guy. Feats only matter posters are adorably naive.Snoke
Palpatine was Yoda's equal, sport.
You say feats don't matter, than you use feats. Lolz
Palpatine would curbstomp Snoke in very department. Luke would too as would Vader and Rey is going to surpass everyone in ep9 knowing Disney and their love of making female characters beat everyone.
Snoke's a tosser and a throwaway villain. He was little more than a gilded prop to move the narrative of Kylo becoming the main villain. Cool voice though, as Serkis is great at voices.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I wish you understood the analogy I'm going to make but I'll do so anyway. It's like saying Luke is better chest exercises but that doesn't take into account his formidability.What happened to Luke when he went after Ben ?
They did in the film. Quit ignoring the facts and talking about another feat from the grumpy old man on a nexus. It was an amp IMO.
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Wait until SW9 Quanchi. So then you can actually debate with facts not opinions.
Originally posted by RobtardFeats matter but comparisons hold more weight since it's an active gauge of their powers against each other not just exclusive feats.
You say feats don't matter, than you use feats. LolzPalpatine would curbstomp Snoke in very department. Luke would too as would Vader and Rey is going to surpass everyone in ep9 knowing Disney and their love of making female characters beat everyone.
Snoke's a tosser and a throwaway villain. He was little more than a gilded prop to move the narrative of Kylo becoming the main villain. Cool voice though, as Serkis is great at voices.
Snoke would force rape him at will. Palpatine was unable to recover from a one armed cyborg and he had over five seconds to defend himself. He also lost to Windu and just held the higher ground to the failure master known as Yoda.
Quit speculating. Snoke is >>>Rey who was Ben's equal in force power. Facts matter.
Iyo but his power is undeniable. You don't care for Snoke and have always favored the Ot villains whereas I've always favored the new trilogy. It's fine.
It is great that no one else loves Snoke save me and possibly one other poster.
Originally posted by playa1258It is a matter of perspective. That has no bearing on power. Snoke is blatantly more powerful than Palpatine who benefited from the failure and hubris of the Jedi. Confirmed.
Palpatine is superior to Snoke in every way and actually won. He was on top for over 20 years, far longer than Snoke.Palpatine, Vader, Luke would all make Snoke their *****.
@ quanchi112 Amazing. Everything you said in those sentences is wrong.
Nope, Snoke's a chump, he was just a springboard for Kylo to get where he was always going. He's best forgotten, he's part of "the past".
Um, Rey without training has bested Kylo and with just a few moments of training bested Luke. She's stronger in the Force (raw power) than either of them. She's going to be the most powerful F-user we've seen in ep9, Disney is clearly going this path.
Originally posted by RobtardYou can use that logic about Palpatine. In the Ot he barely does anything and then is just killed as an afterthought. I don't want to see my villains taking a shit and popping zits. We know and actually get to see his actions prior to his death in Rotj. We haven't seen Snoke prior to Force awakens but that doesn't lessen his overall superiority in the story.
@ quanchi112 Amazing. Everything you said in those sentences is wrong.Nope, Snoke's a chump, he was just a springboard for Kylo to get where he was always going. He's best forgotten, he's part of "the past".
Um, Rey without training has bested Kylo and with just a few moments of training bested Luke. She's stronger in the Force (raw power) than either of them. She's going to be the most powerful F-user we've seen in ep9, Disney is clearly going this path.
Your opinion isn't a valid point. It's bias. That's not debating.
Rey beat him because he was spiritually weakened by killing Han, shot by Chewie, and grazed by a saber. Be at least someone objective for ****s sake. We see them stalemate in the force in this film. That's what matters when shit is on the line and we clearly see a stalemate without him being emotionally drained and weaker by the death of his father.
Snoke already is and he humiliated her in the force. That's an actual showing/indicator of how powerful he is.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
That is his opinion which is about as relevant as saying Batman beats Steppenwolf because he's more popular and has more screen time.
No, it's a fact Snoke is a
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throwaway villain, was there just so Kylo can become the main villain he needs to be. Nothing else.