Originally posted by Josh_AlexanderHe was still able to defend himself. It's quite cowardly to attack someone while they are sleeping.
Luke changed his mind in the last minute which caused him to lose.Not because Kylo is superior to Luke. Kylo is inferior to Luke by far.
Reasonable speculation 😉
Kylo still won and you said no one with their power could do so to a master. You're wrong.
Nah.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was still able to defend himself. It's quite cowardly to attack someone while they are sleeping.Kylo still won and you said no one with their power could do so to a master. You're wrong.
Nah.
He wasnt focused on defeating Kylo but rather in his actions.
In a combat, not in an emotional dispute.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Luke, Yoda and Sidious all on par in the votes (6 each atm). Nice 👆
Expected. They are the big guns ATM.
You know, i was thinking. Perharps Yoda has the most powerful force feat. Even while dead he was able to use the force to create a lightning to burn the Jedi Tree.
Just to become a Force Ghost you require an extremely close connection with the Force! Yoda was able to transcend even further with that feat.
Just imagine if Yoda would have wanted that lightning to fall on someone...
I think this is a difficult question to answer.
I'm going to say Luke, Palpatine or Yoda, but it may very well be Snoke, but we'll probably never know because we didn't really see much of him and have no idea how powerful he really was. His greatest feat was, what, dicking around with Rey? There's just not a lot of answers with Snoke.
I guess I'll say Luke because of his force projection stuff at the end of TLJ is pretty unprecedented.
Originally posted by BackFire
I think this is a difficult question to answer.I'm going to say Luke, Palpatine or Yoda, but it may very well be Snoke, but we'll probably never know because we didn't really see much of him and have no idea how powerful he really was. His greatest feat was, what, dicking around with Rey? There's just not a lot of answers with Snoke.
I guess I'll say Luke because of his force projection stuff at the end of TLJ is pretty unprecedented.
Snoke is not dead. He probably just tricked everyone just like Luke tricked Kylo.
But we will never know until Ep9.
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Luke SHOULD have been the most powerful, and canonically maybe he is with projecting himself over such a large distance, but it's still really disappointing that he's not closing black holes with his mind and moving at Flash level speed like was in the old EU.
Agree.
Yeah that projection was another level shit haha.
But what Yoda did with tha tree although being dead means he got the strongest connection with the Force.
Yoda's relationship with the Force is one that has no equal.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Agree.Yeah that projection was another level shit haha.
But what Yoda did with tha tree although being dead means he got the strongest connection with the Force.
Yoda's relationship with the Force is one that has no equal.
Not sure if blowing up a hut is as impressive as Luke's projection. Well, I'm pretty sure it's not lol.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Not sure if blowing up a hut is as impressive as Luke's projection. Well, I'm pretty sure it's not lol.
It is for a Force Ghost.
Only the closest Jedi to the force get to become a Force Ghost! Now being able to alter the world of the Living is.....The Force clearly likes Yoda, that's what it means.
Originally posted by meep-meepYou can't even make the claim Palpatine is stronger than Yoda so please try using some objectivity.
Palpatine. Disney kinda back handed Luke. Shoulda been Luke.
It's obviously Snoke but Sidious is Yoda's equal so he can't even stand on the top of the mountain if you foolishly believe he's up there.
Originally posted by Josh_AlexanderHe was asleep but still had his saber and his powers to defend himself.
He retracted himself from killing him.I remind you Kylo did saber down Snoke in the end!
When his guard was down. We see what happens when Kylo made a direct action to harm Snoke without him reveling in his victory over Rey and discerning Luke's location.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was asleep but still had his saber and his powers to defend himself.When his guard was down. We see what happens when Kylo made a direct action to harm Snoke without him reveling in his victory over Rey and discerning Luke's location.
He was a distracted/trouble hearted Jedi. Focused on Kylo's sake rather than on fighting him. Your feat is worthless.
Doesnt matter. Kylo proof to be able to outsmart Snoke. Sidious' is clearly well smarter.
Originally posted by Josh_AlexanderNah, he has time to defend himself and his saber was drawn.
He was a distracted/trouble hearted Jedi. Focused on Kylo's sake rather than on fighting him. Your feat is worthless.Doesnt matter. Kylo proof to be able to outsmart Snoke. Sidious' is clearly well smarter.
Vader didn't need to plot to kill Vader he just had to use one arm, no force, and no saber to kill him. Kylo can't directly challenge Snoke. Vader needed one arm to kill the girly man.
Snoke destroys Sidious.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah, he has time to defend himself and his saber was drawn.Vader didn't need to plot to kill Vader he just had to use one arm, no force, and no saber to kill him. Kylo can't directly challenge Snoke. Vader needed one arm to kill the girly man.
Snoke destroys Sidious.
Doesnt change the facts.
Yeah, Only and Only after Sidious was killing Vader's son. Isnt like Vader could ever or would ever treason Sidious for anything less.
Kylo on the other hand just treasoned Snoke because he got tired of the old fool!
I admit you are trying hard, but you are supporting the wrong character.