Supreme Leader Snoke vs Darth Maul (TPM)

Started by Darth Thor7 pages
Originally posted by MythLord
The same rules apply, Canon or no. Either give me an actual rebuttle, or shut up.

It’s very different rules in 2 very different Universes. Always has been. So your point is moot.

Now come back to me when you actually have an argument.

How are they very different? The principles are exactly the same: two beings survived something nobody else could through use of the Dark Side.

Unless you want to tell me the Force works differently in both universes, which is more retarded than the sh!t you've been spewing so far, it's the exact same rules. They're not two very different universes, at all. 😂

Seriously, you either need to prove to me the Force works differently in both verses or shut the actual hell up.

Maul's damage soak as enhanced by the dark side may be better than Snoke's, or maybe not because it might have to do with his biology too.

The evidence we have suggests his damage soak (Dark side power combined with physicals obviously) is considerably greater than Snoke’s.

Given Maul’s superior durability, plus his own not too shabby TK, would only make it more difficult for Snoke to defeat him.

Maul's damage soak is better than anyone in Canon, though.

Snoke is on another level than Maul. Maul's greater damage soak helped him out in what way against Palpatine ? This is just a horribly retarded comparison which has no bearing on a fight. Ironically something far less than being cut in two killed Maul when he was older.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Maul's greater damage soak helped him out in what way against Palpatine ? This is just a horribly retarded comparison which has no bearing on a fight. Ironically something far less than being cut in two killed Maul when he was [B]older. [/B]

Physical and Force Enganced Damage soak helps take hits from TK attacks.

And Snoke is no Palpatine.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Snoke is on another level than Maul.

Based on?

Originally posted by Darth Thor

Based on?

His telepathy feats, for one.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
His telepathy feats, for one.

Which ones?

Maul easily extracted information out of Hera (much more easily the Kylo did from Poe), and he also put visions into Ezra’s mind from Light Years away, to make him come bring Kenobi out of hiding.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Physical and Force Enganced Damage soak helps take hits from TK attacks.

And Snoke is no Palpatine.

Based on?

No amount of tk can protect someone from a saber cleaving them in two.

Snoke is greater than Palpatine who was killed by a one armed cyborg because he wasn't powerful to even put down a guy in a suit with no weapon and a vulnerability to fl.

His feats, the force bridge connection, the domination of someone whose raw strength scared Luke.

Maul when he was older was killed by far less than being cut in half. Old age clearly weakens the body you halfwit.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Which ones?

Maul easily extracted information out of Hera (much more easily the Kylo did from Poe), and he also put visions into Ezra’s mind from Light Years away, to make him come bring Kenobi out of hiding.

Snoke did so to Rey who Kylo wasn't powerful enough to do so. Snoke is more powerful than Kylo in the film. He proves it.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Which ones?

Maul easily extracted information out of Hera (much more easily the Kylo did from Poe), and he also put visions into Ezra’s mind from Light Years away, to make him come bring Kenobi out of hiding.

Well, this is TPM Maul, and Snoke is at a disadvantage in that he only has access to movie feats, and IDK how we should resolve in-universe the obvious feat discrepancy between different mediums.

The VD suggests Snoke is dogshit at 1v1s IMO

Originally posted by McP
Snoke might be superior to Sidious, as well, as he could be inferior to Vader, Dooku or, honestly, even Maul.
I'm one of those persons, who takes that deleted scene from Maul vs Sidious fight as a canon.
kys

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The VD suggests Snoke is dogshit at 1v1s IMO

The VD certainly seems to suggest that Snoke is a dogshit combatant due to his frail physicality, but he seemed perfectly capable of dispatching anyone he went up against with his Force abilities nonetheless.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
The VD certainly seems to suggest that Snoke is a dogshit combatant due to his frail physicality, but he seemed perfectly capable of dispatching anyone he went up against with his Force abilities nonetheless.
His body is riddled with osteoporosis so of course his body is weak. When he uses his force powers he shows Kylo his place and utterly toys with Rey. Yoda without his force powers needs a cane to walk but that doesn't mean with his force powers he can't flip around. This is another case of Palpatine in Rotj. We didn't see him with a lightsaber but come on these dark lords definitely know how to use them.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
The VD certainly seems to suggest that Snoke is a dogshit combatant due to his frail physicality, but he seemed perfectly capable of dispatching anyone he went up against with his Force abilities nonetheless.

Anyone... Meaning Padawan Rey? Or Hux?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Anyone... Meaning Padawan Rey? Or Hux?
Rey's force power rose to meet Ben's. Luke says her raw power scares him. She isn't a padawan in any sense of the word. Kylo with training from Luke and Snoke isn't able to overpower Rey in force power. Snoke easily dominated her force power to force power. Be objective your bias gives you away.

Originally posted by quanchi112
She isn't a padawan in any sense of the word.

😂

Originally posted by Darth Thor
😂
Her feats against Kylo wouldn't be possible by a random padawan. Luke marveled at her raw Starr goth so when you use the word padawan it's disingenuous. She's the light to Kylo's darkness. She matched his force power without force training.