Supreme Leader Snoke vs Darth Maul (TPM)

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DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
The VD certainly seems to suggest that Snoke is a dogshit combatant due to his frail physicality, but he seemed perfectly capable of dispatching anyone he went up against with his Force abilities nonetheless.

I can't see a Visual Dictionary stating, "Palpatine's Force abilities are strong, but his body is broken, his stride staggered, and his muscles weak. He instead relies on the combat prowess of his crimson protectors," though.

Darth Thor Senior Member
Originally posted by quanchi112
Her feats against Kylo wouldn't be possible by a random padawan.

Except she is a Jedi in training. Get over it.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Except she is a Jedi in training. Get over it.
Her power is Kylo's equal in the force. She's a friggin' prodigy. Get over it.

DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66

Here's sort of what I'm thinking: Place Maul at the entrance of the throne room, with Snoke in his throne on the far side. As powerful as Snoke is (and indeed he's likely more powerful than Maul), I struggle seeing Snoke being capable of preventing a charging, lightsaber-ready Darth Maul in his tracks before he is cut into fifteen pieces. I doubt Snoke's telekinesis or telepathy (based on what we've seen) is going to stop Maul. His best bet is Force lightning, but between pain tolerance, a lightsaber, and ambiguity over how strong Snoke's lightning even is, I can see Maul powering through.

The Ellimist The Shadow

I think people associate Kylo Ren's emotional immaturity with combative weakness, or forget that he had been shot by a bowcaster before his lolworthy performance against Finn.

Kylo Ren by potential + training should be far too powerful for Maul to ragdoll, yet it seems like Snoke can do that (I mean, he ragdolls Rey).

But whether he can defeat Maul in an all-out fight, I'm not sure.

DarthAnt66 DarthAnt66

I addressed the ragdolling in the other thread in the EU section, where we can continue discussion there.

Darth Thor Senior Member
Originally posted by quanchi112
Her power is Kylo's equal in the force. She's a friggin' prodigy. Get over it.

No. She’s equal in Raw Power only. Kylo’s far better trained and would take her in a fair fight (as of TLJ).

samappo Senior Member

@Darth Thor Very true.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Darth Thor
No. She’s equal in Raw Power only. Kylo’s far better trained and would take her in a fair fight (as of TLJ).
He is the better trained warrior but she is clearly his equal in force power. We see her stalemate him to acquire the lightsaber. Snoke would bulldoze through her in force power abilities. Snoke wasn't even trying to use a lightsaber but with force powers alone he was raging her something Kylo is unable to do at this point.

quanchi112 Disney

Not raging but raping. Edit button won't work.

AncientPower The Chosen One

There's a pretty sweet idea proposed that Rey and Kylo's power grow in concert with one another to maintain balance in the Force.

The Ellimist The Shadow

It's also antithetical to the original concept of balancing the Force, which held the dark side as an active imbalance, and the "light side" as just the Force.

AncientPower The Chosen One

There's a thousand concepts of that though. 😬

The Ellimist The Shadow

I was referring to Lucas's.

AncientPower The Chosen One

Which was completely crapped on by the Mortis arc.

The Ellimist The Shadow

Sort of, except Anakin refused to take the Father's place but still restored balance in the end. Somehow.

AncientPower The Chosen One

Becauase all of the Ones died and he was left with the Sith.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by The Ellimist
It's also antithetical to the original concept of balancing the Force, which held the dark side as an active imbalance, and the "light side" as just the Force.
Things change. Star Wars is evolving. The Lucas era is over and post Lucas I have received the greatest Star Wars character to me and my third favorite at this point. Not too shabby, Disney.

The Merchant Senior Member

Maybe Snoke can get blitzd and needs the Guards to stall an attacker before he intervenes

samappo Senior Member

I thought the rebalance of the force was the death of the emperor. Sidious and Plagueis used the force to shift the balance of power in favor of the dark side. Only the death of Sidious could allow the force to be shifted back into balance.

Although, this isn't canon anymore, so.