Superman vs Thor

Started by quanchi1127 pages

Originally posted by The Ellimist
The easy counter to quanchi is to point out that he doesn't think Superman can speedblitz because he doesn't do it 100% of the time, but thinks Thor will put his hammer on Superman's chest somehow even though he doesn't do that even close to 100% of the time.
He doesn't have to but I'm debating via tactics. He just beats him up with his powers honestly. The man can take Hulk level punches to the face and recover. Superman winces in pain after a woman headbutts him.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
^ also, even if Thor somehow put his hammer on Superman and he couldn't lift it, I don't imagine why he can't just smash himself down into the earth.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
He doesn't have to but I'm debating via tactics. He just beats him up with his powers honestly. The man can take Hulk level punches to the face and recover. Superman winces in pain after a woman headbutts him.

Lol your trolling is too good, quanchi. If "Thor puts his hammer on Superman" is a valid tactic, then "Superman speed blitzes Thor in 0.0000001 seconds" is too.

Oh, and calling Wonder Woman "a woman" is just as silly as you calling Darth Vader "a cyborg".

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Lol your trolling is too good, quanchi. If "Thor puts his hammer on Superman" is a valid tactic, then "Superman speed blitzes Thor in 0.0000001 seconds" is too.

Oh, and calling Wonder Woman "a woman" is just as silly as you calling Darth Vader "a cyborg".

He blitzes just fine but who has he defeated in under a second someone of Thor's caliber fro start to finish. Cite one example.

She's a physically weaker woman in relation to Superman. It's just as relevant as comparing a stronger man to a weaker woman.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Superman is too quick on the draw for that.

Lol at this thread being a thing, the general concensus in the Superman v Avengers thread is that he'd merk them fast as phuck alonside Thor. Which is accurate.

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Originally posted by Arachnid1
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Originally posted by quanchi112
He blitzes just fine but who has he defeated in under a second someone of Thor's caliber fro start to finish. Cite one example.

She's a physically weaker woman in relation to Superman. It's just as relevant as comparing a stronger man to a weaker woman.

You still haven't fixed the whole hypocrite thing. Applying your logic, Thor only ever puts his hammer on people after he's fought them for a while and beaten them down, which obviously isn't going to happen here because he can never even touch Supes.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
You still haven't fixed the whole hypocrite thing. Applying your logic, Thor only ever puts his hammer on people after he's fought them for a while and beaten them down, which obviously isn't going to happen here because he can never even touch Supes.
Who has Superman beaten before they got s chance to touch him in under a second. Give me an example. He would fight Superman for a while.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Who has Superman beaten before they got s chance to touch him in under a second. Give me an example. He would fight Superman for a while.

Who has Thor beaten before that can move as fast as Superman. Give me an example. He would never touch Superman.

(You don't notice reductio ad absurdums very well so here is my reminder that I'm making fun of your logic)

Yeah, Thor is too slow. Supes would likely just punch a hole through his chest and be done with it.

Quicksilver, who is far slower than Clark was tooling Thor and the other Avengers. When Thor tosses his hammer at Pietro, it all happened in slow motion for him.

The only reason Pietro didn’t continue tooling them, was because he got cocky and tried to grab the Hammer.

^ QS never tooled Thor and there isn't any proof that Superman is far faster than QS. Maybe flight speed but not in reaction speed.

Well, JL Superman can deal out punches while in super speed and the likes of Wonder Woman are statues.

So basically Supes can fight in super speed comparable to Flash. Per the rules, characters fight to the best of their abiity, so I think it stands to reason Superman super punches Thor FTW.

How to properly compare Flash and MCU QS I am not entirely sure, but as far as I remember Flash is quicker.

TL;DR Superman stomps.

Originally posted by FrothByte
^ QS never tooled Thor and there isn't any proof that Superman is far faster than QS. Maybe flight speed but not in reaction speed.
How fast is QS?

Superman should be considered faster in combat since he blitzed the phuck out of casual multiple-bullet timers while QS did nothing impressive aside from the train feat, which was kind of an outlier seing his other showings.

Thor also got completely incapacitated by an electrical disc applied to his body.

Pretty sure that Supes could brush that off.

Originally posted by Impediment
Thor also got completely incapacitated by an electrical disc applied to his body.

Pretty sure that Supes could brush that off.

By the same logic Thor could brush off knite like nothing. I also disagree. That would put Superman down.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Who has Thor beaten before that can move as fast as Superman. Give me an example. He would never touch Superman.

(You don't notice reductio ad absurdums very well so here is my reminder that I'm making fun of your logic)

We see guys hit him who do not have superspeed aka Batman, WW, Cyborg, etc.

Based off what ? We see plenty of examples and you ignore them by saying that doesn't harm him. The laser harmed him, the headbutt harmed him, the knite harmed him, the lasso affected him.

Superman can move faster but he has never sustained that speed to ever beat someone even weaker than himself in under a second. That means you're just making the fight up in your head and cherry picking a small portion of one fight scene as your entire argument.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What I said is factually correct but your imagination and feelings aren't facts. I win.
Nice assumption but not really.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
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Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Nice assumption but not really.
So you believe his imagination and opinion is a fact. You're an idiot.