Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it clearly doesn't. Watch the film because in the film when Kylo goes out to face Luke we see Finn clearly say let's help him implying he's going to need it. Kylo is a force in the film and it's clear the only reason he lost was due to his inner conflict but he was also clearly injured by Chewie.
Yes Kylo is the one who took Snoke out. But he shitted his pants once Luke showed up, despite Kylo having all the firepower on his side 👆
Originally posted by quanchi112
Feat wise Snoke destroys him as well due to the force bridge, effortlessly dominating Rey's force power at will, and putting Kylo down when he was tired of Snoke mocking him.
Yes he made a force bridge between 2 people already connected by the Force, as he himself explained 👆
Yes he dominated Noob Rey, and used his guards to intimidate Kylo. Amazing 👆
Originally posted by quanchi112
Darth Bader couldn't even overpower the clearly inferior Kenobi in force power. GTFO.
Yes because dominating Noob Rey is so much more impressive than matching a high level Jedi Master who taught you everything you know 👆
Originally posted by Darth ThorNot in direct combat. Ben beat him while awaking from a nap. Kylo knew he couldn't directly challenge Snoke. Not the same with Luke since he already beat him. Luke tricked the impulsive Kylo who still lacks the wisdom Snoke possesses. Hux also doesn't respect him whatsoever so you have a leader who doesn't even have the respect of his general.
Yes Kylo is the one who took Snoke out. But he shitted his pants once Luke showed up, despite Kylo having all the firepower on his side 👆
It is still an impressive feat. Dude, he walked up to Kylo you moron. He put him down. Star Wars fans are retarded and do not look stun the evidence but would rather base their entire argument off a Star Wars book. Notice not one of the Star Wars pansies accepts my battlezones because they are cowards like Palpatine. All talk and no balls when push comes to shove.
Yes he made a force bridge between 2 people already connected by the Force, as he himself explained 👆Yes he dominated Noob Rey, and used his guards to intimidate Kylo. Amazing 👆
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Yes because dominating Noob Rey is so much more impressive than matching a high level Jedi Master who taught you everything you know 👆 [/B]
She was trained by Luke you moron and her power rose to match Kylo's. The force gave her the power.
Vader is more powerful yet despite that he can't get anything save a stalemate in force power.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Not in direct combat. Ben beat him while awaking from a nap. Kylo knew he couldn't directly challenge Snoke. Not the same with Luke since he already beat him. Luke tricked the impulsive Kylo who still lacks the wisdom Snoke possesses. Hux also doesn't respect him whatsoever so you have a leader who doesn't even have the respect of his general.
Of course it wasn't direct combat when Snoke had so much back up. But Kylo still overpowered Snoke in the Force by hiding his true intentions. And he did that to a guy whose best feats are TP feats.
No, he knew he couldn't directly challenge Snoke AND his guards. As soon as Rey was there to help him with the guards, he seized the opportunity to take Snoke out.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It is still an impressive feat. Dude, he walked up to Kylo you moron. He put him down. Star Wars fans are retarded and do not look stun the evidence but would rather base their entire argument off a Star Wars book. Notice not one of the Star Wars pansies accepts my battlezones because they are cowards like Palpatine. All talk and no balls when push comes to shove.
Yeah he wlaked upto Kylo when Kylo was on his knees. Then shot him before Kylo could get back up and attack. Then used his guards to intimidate Kylo from trying anything else.
Lets face it, Snoke is too physically weak to do anything without his guards around.
Battlezone against who? You're flip flopping all the time. This is DOOKU vs Snoke.
Snoke's not worthy at all to be compared to Sidious in any way.
Originally posted by quanchi112
She was trained by Luke you moron and her power rose to match Kylo's. The force gave her the power.Vader is more powerful yet despite that he can't get anything save a stalemate in force power.
Yeah trained for a few days or weeks? And even that was mostly about why the Jedi should end.
She's not on Kylo's level of training at all.
The same Vader that Snoke and Kylo worship 👆
Originally posted by Darth ThorNo. The backup isn't what scared him or caused him to stop. It was Snoke. Snoke put him down. His guards didn't do anything to him. He got impulsive which he always does and was put in his place. No, he didn't overpower him. He was overconfident and was not paying attention to the location of both lightsabers. Your silly points are silly.
Of course it wasn't direct combat when Snoke had so much back up. But Kylo still overpowered Snoke in the Force by hiding his true intentions. And he did that to a guy whose best feats are TP feats.
At no point in this scene do the guards have any bearing on his decision. The guards are there when he makes his intent clear. If what you say is true he wouldn't have done anything. He still went towards him I an aggressive manner but stopped after the fl zap. At no point does he stop due to the guards. Baseless claim. He knew that was the perfect moment because Snoke was reveling in his victory and dropped his defenses.No, he knew he couldn't directly challenge Snoke AND his guards. As soon as Rey was there to help him with the guards, he seized the opportunity to take Snoke out.
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Luke stood over Ben while he was sleeping. He walked towards him he at no point created distance between the two. Watch the scene you moron. He walks towards him he doesn't have guards in between the two. He has his elite guard near him because that makes sense for a powerful,leader to have protection close by.Yeah he wlaked upto Kylo when Kylo was on his knees. Then shot him before Kylo could get back up and attack. Then used his guards to intimidate Kylo from trying anything else.
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His fl is what made him stop not the guards. Let's face it that's a baseless claim and he can use the force to hurl fl or use his power to disarm or throttle his foes. We see him do it. He's close enough to Rey to kiss the skank. He isn't retreating behind guards at at ****inf point.
Your opinion is that of the Star Wars losers. Sheep. That's all you really are.
False, I've had two posters agree to battlezones and just dip out. Ils and Ellimist both agreed to the Kelvin trilogy vs. the Ot empire to back out of it. I also see other battlezones agreed upon to never see a post from one of the two posters.Battlezone against who? You're flip flopping all the time. This is DOOKU vs Snoke.
Snoke's not worthy at all to be compared to Sidious in any way.
Yeah trained for a few days or weeks? And even that was mostly about why the Jedi should end.
She's not on Kylo's level of training at all.
The same Vader that Snoke and Kylo worship 👆 [/B]
So ? Luke trained her. It isn't about the quantity it's about the quality of training.
I know but she is his equal in force power. Despite Kylo's training he can't overpower her but Snoke can.
Nah, he mocked him and wanted him focused like Vader. Snoke was manipulating him in that scene. He knew thatbwojld result in him recommitting himself.
You also dipped out of a Khan/Vader battlezone the day of.
Originally posted by juggernaut74It amped him and he passed on in peace. He didn't want to love he was suicidal you moron. He had a purpose and moved on. He needed a force nexus for his vaguest and grandest feat exaggerated by fanboys.
Couldn't have amped him much considering IT F*CKING KILLED HIM!!!!!!
Originally posted by quanchi112If there was a nexus there why couldn't Snoke find him? Oh, that's right Snoke sucks!!!!!!!!
It amped him and he passed on in peace. He didn't want to love he was suicidal you moron. He had a purpose and moved on. He needed a force nexus for his vaguest and grandest feat exaggerated by fanboys.
Originally posted by juggernaut74Luke didn't use the force until the end but come on now. This is seriously a stupid thing to say. Sidious couldn't find Luke either but Snoke did lure Rey back to extract the information from her himself. Snoke would decimate Sidious. Deep down you know this to be true.
If there was a nexus there why couldn't Snoke find him? Oh, that's right Snoke sucks!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by quanchi112I think you're blowing the whole force nexus out of line. Kenobi beat Anakin on Mustafar, which if I'm not mistaken was a dark side nexus or some made up Disney bullshit.
Luke didn't use the force until the end but come on now. This is seriously a stupid thing to say. Sidious couldn't find Luke either but Snoke did lure Rey back to extract the information from her himself. Snoke would decimate Sidious. Deep down you know this to be true.
Originally posted by juggernaut74No, I'm not. Luke was on the same specific Jedi force nexus when he performed the feat. It's specific points but he clearly meditated on it.
I think you're blowing the whole force nexus out of line. Kenobi beat Anakin on Mustafar, which if I'm not mistaken was a dark side nexus or some made up Disney bullshit.
Disney's property they can do what they want with it.
Originally posted by Darth ThorLuke was clearly on one meditating. This was rather obvious but you don't seem to grasp Star Wars like I do. You tend to parrot whatever the others are saying on the Star Wars sub forums.
Of course he is. He’s never once brought up Force Nexus’s before. And it’s not even established how they work in Canon.He’s just clinging to anything to make Snoke look better.
Feats don't really matter in terms of power it's how they match up in combat. Snoke looked ten times better in combat than Luke.