So - How powerful is Snoke, exactly?

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
So, anyone want to tell me what guys like Maul, Kenobi, or Dooku have done that's in the league of taking two force users in seperate parts of the galaxy, and then physically bridging them?

Telekinesis isn't the only kind of feat you know.

I think it's not impressive at all. The most impressive force feat in TLJ was done by Laia, ressurecting her frozen body and Merry Popping through the vacuum of space to safety was more impressive, followed by Lukes Physical interacting Illusion (he touched Laia, the dices were semi physical that even Kylo after Lukes death could lift them from ground). Connecting two minds is nothing other jedis haven't done already. Some communicate that way. Rey is a rookie below a Padawan, Kylo is an emo child that lacks the control to be a proper Padawan. Ragdolling Master Kenobi and Jedi Knight Anakin is what makes Dooku much more powerful than Snoke. His fight against the Nightsisters also. Vader in his glory would have taken Snoke and all his guards at once without breaking a sweat. Maul took Master Qui-Gon and Padawan Kenobi, this is something I think Snoke would... actually no, Qui-Gon would end Snoke. So below TPM Maul.

To be fair, Kylo sort of alludes that the bridging of their minds would kill a normal force user such as Rey [who is exceptionally strong].

There's no way to quantify how good bridging a connection between two force users is. What we do know, is that unless he gets up from being cut in half in the next film. No one has to hold him above Maul.

Could Vader or Dooku survive being cut in half? No? Then clearly they're below Maul, hey.

Seriously, arguing that a physically frail person can't survive being cut in half in some way indicates that their power in the force isn't as strong as Maul's? Vader definitely couldn't.

Originally posted by samappo
Could Vader or Dooku survive being cut in half? No? Then clearly they're below Maul, hey.

Want to show me the scene wear they can't?

Originally posted by samappo
Could Vader or Dooku survive being cut in half? No? Then clearly they're below Maul, hey.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Vader can for sure. Dooku might survive it.

Moron.

😂

Dooku could not either, kiddo.

Originally posted by An_Sock
Want to show me the scene wear they can't?

😂

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Connecting two minds is nothing other jedis haven't done already.

Not seeing pulling yourself several yards towards a ship is remotely comparable.

What has Kenobi done that makes ragdolling him comparatively impressive?

No idea why you're brining Luke into this. Aside from me never arguing snoke was his superior, he didn't actually physically interact with anything per the word of the director. Hence why there were no footsteps.

Your claims that all of Snoke's guards= Ren would have been fodder for Kenobi are baseless and not relevant since not one of the people you mentioned was shit to Snoke.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Except he didn't just connect their minds, he made them physically interact from across the galaxy.

Yeah and his TP is so amazing he had no idea Kylo was about to attack him while actively reading his mind!

Frigging amazing TP. Nothing like it before in the Saga!

D. Thor's bias is so plain to see.

Snoke pretty much seems this Valkorion type of guy who's immensely powerful but has also immense gaps in abilities and is frankly also pretty stupid

in all honesty hes probably around Dooku level Force wielder but no higher

Originally posted by relentless1
in all honesty hes probably around Dooku level Force wielder but no higher

oh yeah i forgot that you take actors word as canon lmao

and Snoke having anything to do with that mental bridge was highly exaggerated or an out and out lie on his part because Rey and Kylo had that connection when she was about to leave on the Falcon at the end of the film and Snoke obviously wasn't around to "facilitate" so any involvement he had in that feat was minimal instead

Originally posted by relentless1
oh yeah i forgot that you take actors word as canon lmao

So I should take yours over the guy who worked with the director on the film ? GTFO. Would it make sense for the story group to say make him Dooku level considering the Starkiller Base, the ships, the tracking, and the military might of the First Order ? Would Disney go big ?

Originally posted by relentless1
and Snoke having anything to do with that mental bridge was highly exaggerated or an out and out lie on his part because Rey and Kylo had that connection when she was about to leave on the Falcon at the end of the film and Snoke obviously wasn't around to "facilitate" so any involvement he had in that feat was minimal instead

facts are facts; Ren and Rey established that same connection after Snoke was long gone, they did it not him