Haha sure,I can do others.
Every single psychic in Marvel. Invisible Woman. Storm. Cyclops.
Basically, I can post scans of every 'human' level character doing things no normal human can do. Shall we use Punisher? Bullseye? Daredevil?
Hey, what about Kingpin?
IOW, it's not a DC/Marvel thing.
Batman is used, because DC has a lot of speedsters, and they focus on them.
Let's stay on topic, right? Thor. He has reacted to lightspeed attacks. Ergo, he has lightspeed reactions.
Fair enough.
How about Wolverine? He outsped Thor. Whilst mocking him. If he can do that to lightspeed Thor....
And he has done it to many a character, who we say have enhanced reactions. Hulk, Glads, Thanos (I'm sure....)...the list is long.
So has Cap.
Many times.
So by these logics, of using battle feats....yeah, Batman has been named. I note no rebuttal came. But I could've named others.
What's the floor made of? Is it indestructible?
Superman's used gurilla tactics before. Against Krypronite powered Conduit. Flanked him, and let loose with a heat vision barrage.
So if Thor breaks out a godblast or portal, Superman doesn't need super speed to create a trench and dig his way behind Thor.
Originally posted by cdtm
What's the floor made of? Is it indestructible?Superman's used gurilla tactics before. Against Krypronite powered Conduit. Flanked him, and let loose with a heat vision barrage.
So if Thor breaks out a godblast or portal, Superman doesn't need super speed to create a trench and dig his way behind Thor.
He could troll Thor and just bounce his heat vision off of satellites and whatnot, without Thor knowing where it's coming from:
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/hvsatelliteprecision.jpg?hotlinkfix=1515692177088
Or scream "puny god" at him until he's numb:
http://photobucket.com/gallery/user/PhilosophiaKMC/media/cGF0aDovc3Vic29uaWNidXJzdDEuanBn/?ref=&hotlinkfix=1515692624068
http://photobucket.com/gallery/user/PhilosophiaKMC/media/cGF0aDovc3Vic29uaWNidXJzdDIuanBn/?ref=&hotlinkfix=1515692639519
Originally posted by cdtm
What's the floor made of? Is it indestructible?Superman's used gurilla tactics before. Against Krypronite powered Conduit. Flanked him, and let loose with a heat vision barrage.
So if Thor breaks out a godblast or portal, Superman doesn't need super speed to create a trench and dig his way behind Thor.
With those types of tactics he'll be giving mole man a run for his money 👆
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Haha sure,I can do others.Every single psychic in Marvel. Invisible Woman. Storm. Cyclops.
Basically, I can post scans of every 'human' level character doing things no normal human can do. Shall we use Punisher? Bullseye? Daredevil?
Hey, what about Kingpin?
IOW, it's not a DC/Marvel thing.
Batman is used, because DC has a lot of speedsters, and they focus on them.
Let's stay on topic, right? Thor. He has reacted to lightspeed attacks. Ergo, he has lightspeed reactions.
Fair enough.
How about Wolverine? He outsped Thor. Whilst mocking him. If he can do that to lightspeed Thor....
And he has done it to many a character, who we say have enhanced reactions. Hulk, Glads, Thanos (I'm sure....)...the list is long.
So has Cap.
Many times.
So by these logics, of using battle feats....yeah, Batman has been named. I note no rebuttal came. But I could've named others.
I understand what youre saying Dark but at the end of the day, youre debating powerset and it just does not work like that and if anything, its the worst thing you should want to mention in a thread like this where speed is equalized and Thor being one of the most versatile characters in comics. Thor throws Mjlonir, let it beat Superman to death while he throws lightning bolts that has blasted through Chaos King and throw blitz punches at Superman dome piece. Thor wins 10/10. Can we agree on this?
Originally posted by carver9
I understand what youre saying Dark but at the end of the day, youre debating powerset and it just does not work like that and if anything, its the worst thing you should want to mention in a thread like this where speed is equalized and Thor being one of the most versatile characters in comics. Thor throws Mjlonir, let it beat Superman to death while he throws lightning bolts that has blasted through Chaos King and throw blitz punches at Superman dome piece. Thor wins 10/10. Can we agree on this?
Without Mjolnir and equalized speed, Superman takes Thor out with heat vision.
Or simply leads Mjolnir into Thor's face, since they're equally fast.
Originally posted by carver9Thor proceeds to grab the hammer and shoves it up Thor’s ass to remind him that Thor is a female now
I understand what youre saying Dark but at the end of the day, youre debating powerset and it just does not work like that and if anything, its the worst thing you should want to mention in a thread like this where speed is equalized and Thor being one of the most versatile characters in comics. Thor throws Mjlonir, let it beat Superman to death while he throws lightning bolts that has blasted through Chaos King and throw blitz punches at Superman dome piece. Thor wins 10/10. Can we agree on this?
Originally posted by carver9
I understand what youre saying Dark but at the end of the day, youre debating powerset and it just does not work like that and if anything, its the worst thing you should want to mention in a thread like this where speed is equalized and Thor being one of the most versatile characters in comics. Thor throws Mjlonir, let it beat Superman to death while he throws lightning bolts that has blasted through Chaos King and throw blitz punches at Superman dome piece. Thor wins 10/10. Can we agree on this?
No, I'm NOT debating powerset. I'm actually debating character.
I've said this, many many many times.
Barry Allen, as an example.
If I just debated powerset, Pietro would be the same.
BUT: Barry LOVES using his intellect. He's a forensic scientist, a guy who's so good at his job, his entire department cuts him ferocious amounts of slack. Imagine if you did what he did - left work suddenly, came in late, left early everytime a monster attacked, didn't do your cases etc...how long before you were fired?
He loves solving mysteries:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RNx7pPo6cn8/WjERDjNsM_I/AAAAAAAAAVc/DFl-Td-DjK48iJ6NydlsCZQnxR0zt_4MgCHMYCw/s1600/RCO004.jpg
So, in character, he uses his brain. He does it so well, even Batman, when they first met, complimented him - telling him he did a great job.
In character, he doesn't like being hit.
So...IN CHARACTER, he will use his speed to not get hit.
Superman too, doesn't like throwing down. If it can be solved quickly, he will do it. He doesn't like drawn out physical punchfests IF HE CAN HELP IT. He would try BFR, he would try HV, all of it.
Now, let's look at Thor. In character, what is he like?
Hulk. In character, does he throw out his more exotic powers? Or does he SMASH?
In a way, I guess you're right. I AM debating powersets. The powers I am specifically focusing on, are superintelligence and superspeed.
Here, Thor has neither.
Superman has superintelligence.
I mean, I don't have superintelligence. But even I would avoid getting hit if I can help it.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Just now really looking at this one. Are the last 7 pages worth reading or is it just a big shitstorm that follows every Thor vs. Supes thread.?
It's about what you'd expect.
Get ready to read a lot of fanboy posts, amid a tiny minority of level headed fans like myself who know Superman beats a thousand Rune King Thor's with a glance. 👆
Originally posted by Damborgson
Okay, so you agree magic was a factor. I agree surprise was a factor. 👆
So Thor is cheapshotting Superman here?
Okay, you're agreeing again, this is good 👆
mmm
I meant against Viking in the rematch, that Superman punched him once before heating up his axe.
And?
Nope, you can't prove that. The knockout was almost certainly a feint, but Superman's interior monologue of Captain Marvel's magic bothering him in blunt force hand to hand combat was a feint? Highly unlikely, and not provable.
Bothering him and he still caught his punch and threw him away after Cap suckerpunched him.
All the while being weakened by a kryptonite meteor.
Not good for your argument. It just shows magic isn't auto win against Superman.
No, I mean that his fights with them mind controlled didn't damage him enough for Nightshade's magic to be helped along by his exhaustion. Obviously beating them was great still.
And here I thought Banshee could've beaten him with magic by your logic.
....I'm going to assume you're not quite understanding me. Superman's speed in this thread? Same as Thor's. That means at the level of speed that Thor operates at. That means no heart removing, not that he's ever done that (iirc) but still.
Thor has the same speed, he don't know how to turn intangible.
He has shattered Cyborg Superman into pieces using speed. Does that count?
Originally posted by abhilegend
So Thor is cheapshotting Superman here?mmm
And?
Bothering him and he still caught his punch and threw him away after Cap suckerpunched him.
All the while being weakened by a kryptonite meteor.
Not good for your argument. It just shows magic isn't auto win against Superman.
And here I thought Banshee could've beaten him with magic by your logic.
Thor has the same speed, he don't know how to turn intangible.
He has shattered Cyborg Superman into pieces using speed. Does that count?
You go ahead and quote where I said magic was an auto win. I said it was a vulnerability, you said it wasn't. I showed you why that's not true.
We might be having a language barrier though. A lot of your response didn't synch up. I will say this one last time: For purposes of the thread, Superman has the same speed as Thor. So unless you think Thor is so fast he can vibrate someone's heart out, what you're saying it not making sense lol.
Originally posted by Damborgson👆
You go ahead and quote where I said magic was an auto win. I said it was a vulnerability, you said it wasn't. I showed you why that's not true.We might be having a language barrier though. A lot of your response didn't synch up. I will say this one last time: For purposes of the thread, Superman has the same speed as Thor. So unless you think Thor is so fast he can vibrate someone's heart out, what you're saying it not making sense lol.
