1/11/2018 - #5A (Ranking FIVE, Round ONE) - Most Powerful Tournament - VOTE!

Originally posted by Azronger
And I feel obligated to *again* point out that Plagueis is *immensely* more powerful than peak Valkorion per his galactic TP, Naboo climate/earthquake, cosmic unbalancing, and overpowering the will of the Force feats as well as general powerscaling, not to mention being a sufficient threat in the Force's eyes to warrant a demigod to take him down - a demigod whose might you already recognize full well.

Nothing what you said here is true, Az.

1. Plagueis' presence didn't affect Naboo. If that were to be true; then he'd affect any planet when he steps foot on it. The climate has nothing to do with Plagueis, man. The climate was just changed when we were introduced to Plagueis there.
2. He never unbalanced the Force. Because the Force allowed the imbalance to happen in the first place. It didn't respond against their challenge.
3. They didn't overpower the will of the Force. It's them who thought that based on the Force's silence of not reacting at their shift back on Sojourn.
4. As I said before: The Force allowed them to cause the imbalance and it created the Chosen One. The Chosen One has been foreseen long before Plagueis and Sidious' rise to power. It was bound to happen. Destiny.
5. Nothing that Anakin has done suggests he is a god. Not even Lucas suggested he is a god. You're taking things out of context. It is obviously that Lucas' vision also left a mark on your perception about Star Wars' Legends.

Not only that, but you take things out of context when you see fragments of text.

Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
When metaphor is taken to an entire new level. 😆

Originally posted by Azronger
And I feel obligated to *again* point out that Plagueis is *immensely* more powerful than peak Valkorion per his galactic TP, Naboo climate/earthquake, cosmic unbalancing, and overpowering the will of the Force feats as well as general powerscaling, not to mention being a sufficient threat in the Force's eyes to warrant a demigod to take him down - a demigod whose might you already recognize full well.

How do people reconcile Plagueis supposedly affecting Naboo's climate with him later stating that he's unable to even create rain? mmm

The earthquakes and freak weather event Plagueis caused on Naboo were a result of him disturbing the planet's Force nexus (in all likelihood) - it has nothing to do with alter environment, he did it with his mere presence.

Then why doesn't he alter any planet he visits with his mere presence? Why didn't he alter Sojourn's climate, Coruscant's? Basically each planet he set foot on?

Unless his so-called altering climate feat was boosted by Naboo's nexus.

And if you read the novel, nowhere it is said he altered it.

Originally posted by ILS
What exactly did the planet shaking and stars shaking/reconfiguring represent in this metaphor?

Because it is a metaphor. You just need to read the novel and see that everything happens from Sidious' point of view. And it is also night.
When it is said: "To shake the stars themselves" it tries to say that his death(the sudden release of dark side energy) spread into the planet's core and into its atmosphere blurring the view of the sky during the night; it's like watching through a lense and see that an object is blurred. You see the stars during the night in the sky, right?
When Sidious looked up at the sky, during the night, he saw the stars 'shaking'/vibrating because Plagueis' dark side energies were blurring the sight of the sky as they were released in the atmosphere. This may mean that Plagueis' death created a small nexus of dark side energy.

If Plagueis' energies also engulfed the whole planet, that remains to be seen. I don't think so, because the Jedi would have sensed it.

I am pretty sure if Plagueis' energies, truly, re-aligned the stars' position in the vicinity of the planet, someone would have noticed(e.g: Jedi).

Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
Then why doesn't he alter any planet he visits with his mere presence? Why didn't he alter Sojourn's climate, Coruscant's? Basically each planet he set foot on?

Unless his so-called altering climate feat was boosted by Naboo's nexus.

And if you read the novel, nowhere it is said he altered it.

I read what you said. And you said this was only your opinion. I wasn't talking to you. I was talking with Azronger.

wow. rude

Rude as in what? That I did not address to you?

jeez wtf

Nadd stop dissing Beni like a dog, wtf, dont act like a child, i understand heated debate and shit, but treating people like garbage... wtf

How am I rude? Lol

It's like me saying you are racist because you have Hitler as your KMC profile picture.

hitler wasn't targeting any specific race, he was killing people of specific religion roots... so yeah, that's retarded tbh

Honestly Nadd, banter and rage are okay, but this is just evil. Please stop insulting Beni like that.

And if you have him as your profile picture should that make you retarded?

For the last time. I haven't treated anyone like garbage. I keep in mind to treat every KMC member with respect. And if I hurt his feelings; I am sorry, then.

Theyre joking.

i feel attacked

Voting Plagueis. skillz