Originally posted by Haschwalth
No you made high end assumptions of the feat, with not enough data to make your conclusion accurate hence, why Ct low balled it.
Dude, I assumed the "correct" data. The length of the ship is 600 m, and Kyp moves it through the "mouth" like structure which by appearance is 400 m. If you can see a picture and scale it that is, which a 3rd grader should be able to do.
He accelerated it "in a moment", so the fact that I assumed 5 seconds is incredibly generous. Should I take the real time as stipulated, it would be 5 times more powerful, so roughly 90000 petatons.
Let's just say I assumed 4 seconds extra, simply. So, I lowballed the feat, not highballed it.
Originally posted by LordOfTheLight
SMH.No, it creates a "singularity" or "void" which is a supermassive void, "which" due to its incredibly high mass is responsible for sucking in the objects.
The ends of the shark's mouth( as it appears) control the void and prevent it from sucking in the ship. The minute they lose control of the void, which is when Kyp moves the void from that place to inside the ship, the void sucks in the ship entirely, instantly.
Congratulations for disproving your argument again.
So, it remained at that point, and acted exactly like a void, after sucking the ship in?
Originally posted by LordOfTheLight
Dude, I assumed the "correct" data. The length of the ship is 600 m, and Kyp moves it through the "mouth" like structure which by appearance is 400 m. If you can see a picture and scale it that is, which a 3rd grader should be able to do.He accelerated it "in a moment", so the fact that I assumed 5 seconds is incredibly generous. Should I take the real time as stipulated, it would be 5 times more powerful, so roughly 90000 petatons.
Let's just say I assumed 4 seconds extra, simply. So, I lowballed the feat, not highballed it.
Can you highlight where, it indicates he moved it that distance? All I can see is that he moved it forward and back.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Katarr?file=Nihiluswalks.png
This also is a clear indicator of what happened to the atmosphere.
Originally posted by Haschwalth
Can you highlight where, it indicates he moved it that distance? All I can see is that he moved it forward and back.
He moved it back, yeah. When he was done, the void was touching the bulk part of the ship.
From the source, the void is located at the "protrusions" which make for the maximum length of the ship, which is apparent at a glance. But they are just protrusions. The main body of the ship is lesser than half the size of the whole ship. What's more, when it reaches the "flank" of the ship, it is the first to distort. The flank, obviously referring to the main body of the ship which is located on its rear end.
Also, the interdictor that Kyp moved is larger than 600 m, i.e. 900 m, so the distance moved would be correspondingly larger.
Originally posted by Haschwalth
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Katarr?file=Nihiluswalks.png
This also is a clear indicator of what happened to the atmosphere.
The buildings and structures were collapsed and ruined, yes. I never denied that. However, this again, does nothing to prove that the oceans were vaporized.
Originally posted by LordOfTheLight
He moved it back, yeah. When he was done, the void was touching the bulk part of the ship.From the source, the void is located at the "protrusions" which make for the maximum length of the ship, which is apparent at a glance. But they are just protrusions. The main body of the ship is lesser than half the size of the whole ship. What's more, when it reaches the "flank" of the ship, it is the first to distort. The flank, obviously referring to the main body of the ship which is located on its rear end.
Also, the interdictor that Kyp moved is larger than 600 m, i.e. 900 m, so the distance moved would be correspondingly larger.
Can you use quotes from the passages, to get the context for this?
Because, I'm down for an upgrade to that feat.
Originally posted by LordOfTheLight
The buildings and structures were collapsed and ruined, yes. I never denied that. However, this again, does nothing to prove that the oceans were vaporized.
The fact the whole atmosphere is giving off that dust ball affect, which shouldn't occur if there were oceans. The affect from the drain on land caused, there to be just rubble left, meaning the drain screwed with the surface, the same should logically be with, the ocean as it is generally teeming with life./microbes/bacteria etc.
Originally posted by Haschwalth
The fact the whole atmosphere is giving off that dust ball affect, which shouldn't occur if there were oceans. The affect from the drain on land caused, there to be just rubble left, meaning the drain screwed with the surface, the same should logically be with, the ocean as it is generally teeming with life./microbes/bacteria etc.
The ruining of buildings, is because Nihilus blasts the worlds from orbit first, before draining them. Not because of his drain.
Anyways, by your logic, all the structures on the surface should have been vaporized as well, and they clearly weren't. They were just damaged. As your Wookiepedia picture shows. So that again, doesn't fly. Nihilus isn't draining bricks or water, he is draining "life".
Originally posted by LordOfTheLight
The ruining of buildings, is because Nihilus blasts the worlds from orbit first, before draining them. Not because of his drain.Anyways, by your logic, all the structures on the surface should have been vaporized as well, and they clearly weren't. They were just damaged. As your Wookiepedia picture shows. So that again, doesn't fly. Nihilus isn't draining bricks or water, he is draining "life".
Nah,rock is a fair bit more dense than water, and water contains life, rock doesn't.
Originally posted by LordOfTheLight
The ruining of buildings, is because Nihilus blasts the worlds from orbit first, before draining them. Not because of his drain.Anyways, by your logic, all the structures on the surface should have been vaporized as well, and they clearly weren't. They were just damaged. As your Wookiepedia picture shows. So that again, doesn't fly. Nihilus isn't draining bricks or water, he is draining "life".
Where was it stated that he bombards the planet? If anything, Visas states otherwise. Also, Vitiate's ritual on Nathema also affected buildings and droids. And his ritual doeth the same thing as Nihilus' hungry shtick.
Originally posted by MythLord
Well, of course it isn't easy, it did take effort, but what other abilities did he use? The text says he seized it and moved it... That's literally the textbook application of purely telekinesis right there.
Because it is written, "Force abilities"? That means he used other abilities the writer was too lazy to mention.
Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
Nah, same thing. If anything, Nihilus' drain is more potent after consuming several planets of their Force energies.
We don't know how many planets Nihilus consumed, nor were the affects anywhere close.
