Originally posted by Jmanghan
In YJ Clayface destroyed the entire YJ team without a scratch, which included Superboy and Aqualad.
Yes, yet we have seen Batman (and even Robin) take down Clayface solo without much of a problem.
Point being, in comics writers will always have a fight go a certain way due to the need to tell a story. Eg, in comics you’ll see Wolverine fight almost evenly for a while against someone like the Hulk or Thor.
On KMC, however, we tend to strip out PIS and CIS. Thus, on the forum a character like Wolverine will never be a match for a character like the Hulk/Thor; and a character like Clayface will never be able to take down a high level Kryptonian.
Clayface 0/10
Originally posted by Jmanghan
In YJ Clayface destroyed the entire YJ team without a scratch, which included Superboy and Aqualad.
Are you going by the cartoon? If so, I can't really comment, only saw most of one season and don't recall Superman doing much. If we're going by the comics, not seeing what Clayface can do beyond being an annoyance.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
In YJ Clayface destroyed the entire YJ team without a scratch, which included Superboy and Aqualad.
Originally posted by riv6672
Confusing ...
This is actually fairly straightforward.
The powers and ability and interpretation of any given character CHANGES when translated from medium to medium, age to age, and writer/artist team to writer/artist team.
The power level for Superboy is different in the televised version of Young Justice (YJ), for instance, than it is in present-day comics. That's largely an illustration of a medium (animated TV) to medium (present-day comicbook) change.
Age to age? Think of whether or not you'd expect Silver Age (ie from the years of roughly 1960 to 1966) Superman to struggle with what you're apparently thinking Superman now here in 2018 (Modern Age/post-Modern Age) Superman will find challenging.
Writer/artist team? Read the Superman versus Venom action penned by Ron Marz in the infamous mid-1990s crossover and tell me why people think Superman would even be a fully adequate match for Spider-Man, let alone the Zods, Thors, Firelords, and Hulks of the world.
For the record, you'd probably have a good matchup if you took Superman from the CW Live Action Supergirl TV show and matched HIM against animated Young Justice Clayface. Present day mainstream comicbook Superman versus present day comicbook Clayface, though?
Not so much.
However, you could also go the route of a scenario match-up.
In point of fact, in at least 2 story lines I know of, even our current comicbook Superman would have found comicbook Clayface a handful. One of the first coming to mind concern's Superman's little cousin, who, during this time, even as on the CW show now, was physically stronger than Clark:
Source: Superman/Batman #19
Writer: Jeph Loeb
Circa: 2006
even there a super speed spin should end it i would think. she also doesn't have freeze breath, and can't blast hv from orbit. i'd need to see a lot of proof clayface could handle instant freezing or boiling, or can retain his form in the face of a super speed spin.
even if clayface went down his throat i'd think supes' lungs strong enough to just expel him...
Originally posted by leonidasWhat if deepthroating Superman is right where Superman wants him though?
even there a super speed spin should end it i would think. she also doesn't have freeze breath, and can't blast hv from orbit. i'd need to see a lot of proof clayface could handle instant freezing or boiling, or can retain his form in the face of a super speed spin.even if clayface went down his throat i'd think supes' lungs strong enough to just expel him...
