Superman vs Clayface

Started by bluewaterrider5 pages

Originally posted by Squallx

Batman took down CF. Is Batman>every leaguers now?

Superman has legitimately threaten actually elemental tha were as big as mountains with his presence alone.

Again, Batman is one of comicdom's greatest overachievers.

Superman convinced 4 entities he was capable of and would destroy planet Earth?

Batman convinced Darkseid, conqueror of worlds guarded BY supermen, that he would destroy planet Apokolips -- IF he did not accede to Batman's wishes.

Darkseid not only complied, but told Batman the threat would NOT have worked had it come from either Wonder Woman or Superman himself:

Source: Superman/Batman #12
Writer: Jeph Loeb
Circa: September 2004

I'd collected these to illustrate that Supes and Wondy, despite all their power, still need to breathe in most incarnations. 2 of them I've covered; I think the middle one is from Flashpoint #3:

Solar flare.

???

😕

Look it up.

Quite a few people's hopes dashed with that news, I imagine ...

Depending on how many light years distant that event is, though, that's probably an event long passed. I'll give it some more research attention in a bit, though.

This just gets more hilarious by every post. Freeze breath anyone?

Freeze breath, HV, Solar flare....or just sonic attacks.

Or simply punch him once.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
The YJ (Young Justice) version of Clayface, as shown above, apparently doesn't need magic or Kryptonite to defeat the Young Justice version of Superboy.

From the little I could glean from the Young Justice comic, that might make a very good case that Clayface would take the Young Justice of Superman as well, if, ignoring the fact Clayface took Aqualad, Miss Martian, Kid Flash AND Superboy at the same time doesn't already do it. Certainly, presented with that and something like the following, it's easy to draw that conclusion:

Source: Young Justice #6
Circa: September 2011

I shouldn't even be surprised why you cropped the last scan.

For anyone who was wondering, the full scene.

Wow. Very dishonest of bluewaterrider...

Is anyone even surprised?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Freeze breath, HV, Solar flare ...or just sonic attacks.

You're positing this as a pretty desperate fight if you're suggesting Superman would resort to "solar flare" level effort to take Clayface down.

The first instance of this, after all, was last-ditch, accidental, burned things for miles, including Superman's own armor, knocked Superman out ALONG with his opponent, AND left Superman powerless for 20+ hours afterward:

Source: Superman #38
Circa: March 2015

Rebirth Superman didn't have that though.

More, your scans are showing what.....that Clayface would choke him out, and then, despite literally dying as he's choking, he WOULDN'T use the flare or HV etc?

It's actually a little difficult to say exactly what Nu52 Superman would do if someone like Clayface were empowered and got the drop on him. That particular version of Superman was more wild and ruthless as a fighter than most of the other versions of Superman that we've seen.

The setting and circumstances of the fight are going to matter quite a bit here.
No in-character version of mainstream Superman is going to deliberately place the lives of innocents in deadly peril if he can help it.

On the other hand, Nu52 was usually savvy and powerful enough to relocate the fight to a location where he COULD safely use a fuller extent of his power without hurting others. Assuming DC didn't already feature it, Clayface versus Nu52 Superman could have made a good comic book read.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I don't think you realize the level of punching strength an all out Superman can bring lol.

Share with us the level of punching strength "standard" Superman can bring.

Originally posted by carver9
Share with us the level of punching strength "standard" Superman can bring.

Why did you change my words?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Why did [Carver] change my words?

Perhaps he figured you should have a taste of your own medicine, as you certainly had no trouble trying to alter what I wrote on page 1 of this thread.

I made an interesting discovery today; particularly so in light of me including mention of 1960s Superman several pages ago.

Clayface versus Silver Age Superman, Part 1.

This entry is noteworthy for several reasons:

-- Features Clayface taking on, arguably, THE most powerful conventional version of Superman ever published.

-- Effectively explores Clayface's ability to mimic an opponent's DNA before genetics was a thing.

-- Shows us a Clayface, who, even at "normal" Clayface power levels, proved able to thwart environmental conditions used in later years to subdue him.
(Note in the previous post Clayface actually swims to safety. Contrast that episode to his run-in with Loeb's Supergirl several decades later.)

Clayface versus Silver Age Superman, Part 2.

Source: World's Finest #140
Writer: Dave Wood
Circa: March 1964

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Perhaps he figured you should have a taste of your own medicine, as you certainly had no trouble trying to alter what I wrote on page 1 of this thread.

Oh? So you'd be equally attracted to the mental image of the two fighting if they were male?