Why bump this useless thread?
Kal have gone up against true elementals and he scared the shits out of them.
Haven’t we learned the comic troupe by now? Every hero or villlains who are in the Batman class gets pis/cis as back up whenever they are out against super powered beings. It’s a classic troupe.
Originally posted by SquallX
You know a mere flick from Kal can change the environment right?
That's true of everybody, though:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect
It might help to get an idea of J's starting point, which he as good as told us was/is an animated DC show that has been translated into DC comics:
Source: Young Justice #13
Circa: 2012
Originally posted by Jmanghan
In YJ Clayface destroyed the entire YJ team without a scratch, which included Superboy and Aqualad.
I don't follow the show, and finding a YouTube clip of whatever fight you're talking about might get taken down anyway, making it a waste of my time, but, besides doing what he did to the team collective at once, as shown above in my previous post, Clayface ALSO later took out the members of Young Justice individually. So in the comics, at least, Clayface has singlehandedly TWICE taken down Young Justice, a team that presumably frequently takes on Superman-level opposition:
Source: Young Justice #13
Circa: April 2012
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
OP is referring to YJ version of Clayface.Who doesn't have magic/Kryptonite etc.
The YJ (Young Justice) version of Clayface, as shown above, apparently doesn't need magic or Kryptonite to defeat the Young Justice version of Superboy.
From the little I could glean from the Young Justice comic, that might make a very good case that Clayface would take the Young Justice of Superman as well, if, ignoring the fact Clayface took Aqualad, Miss Martian, Kid Flash AND Superboy at the same time doesn't already do it. Certainly, presented with that and something like the following, it's easy to draw that conclusion:
Source: Young Justice #6
Circa: September 2011
Originally posted by leonidas
even there a super speed spin should end it i would think. she also doesn't have freeze breath, and can't blast hv from orbit. i'd need to see a lot of proof clayface could handle instant freezing or boiling, or can retain his form in the face of a super speed spin.even if clayface went down his throat i'd think supes' lungs strong enough to just expel him...
Originally posted by One Big Mob
What if deepthroating Superman is right where Superman wants him though?
Who wins then?
It's worth pointing out that, in many iterations, mainstream OR otherwise, Kryptonians DO need to breathe. Even so-called "pre-boot" Kryptonians find themselves gasping for air if deprived of it for too long, as demonstrated by Superman's cousin, Supergirl, here:
Source: Supergirl #23
Circa: January 2008
Originally posted by Squallx
Are we really been this dense now?
... we’re to believe because of a YJ cartoon which isn’t even canon brings precedence now?
1. If you want to try to insult someone's intelligence, you'll want to proofread your text for spelling and grammar mistakes first. If those are left in, as is the case here, your attempt might not work as well as you hope.
2. "Dense" would be ignoring the original poster of this thread TELLING you why he thinks the way he does ...
Originally posted by Jmanghan
In YJ Clayface destroyed the entire YJ team without a scratch, which included Superboy and Aqualad.
... and giving him only non-sequiturs in return.
Originally posted by SquallxBatman took down CF. Is Batman>every leaguers now?
If you're the longtime DC reader you present yourself as, you should know better than this. Batman is one of the greatest overachievers in comicdom, and frequently outperforms his supposed peers.
To give only one example, examine the following:
Source: JLA #4
Circa: April 1997
The above is useful for illustrating several things.
In no particular order:
-- Superman is vulnerable to suffocation attacks from a powerful enough opponent
-- Retcons even of characters' basic physical properties occur with some frequency. Note that here White Martians need air to breathe and Wonder Woman defeats her opponent by depriving her of it. When these characters are introduced a 2nd time into this title, their very goal is to deprive Earth of breathe-able oxygen to rule an airless world where fire cannot be used against them.
-- Superman struggles with his lone opponent but defeats him, not through any intrinsic power, but through clever use of the environment, exploiting the Martian weakness to heat by relocating them to where geothermal energy knocks most of the fight out of Protex.
-- While Superman presents having overcome ONE White Martian, Batman presents having at least THREE of them helplessly in tow.
Originally posted by SquallxSuperman has legitimately threaten actually elemental tha were as big as mountains with his presence alone.
Most of Superman's truly dangerous enemies are smaller than a rhino.
Size isn't usually the primary determinant of threat level in comics.
Having said that, inasmuch as you seem to think very highly of what is, ultimately, a convincing speech by Superman, not an action, I'll go ahead and post the episode you refer to:
Source: Superman #209, Volume 2
Writer: Brian Azzarello
Circa: November 2004
