The Appealment Of the 2nd Amendment

Started by BackFire20 pages
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yes I don't agree with her tweet, but calling for an advertiser boycott over that is not the appropriate response.

Why not?

Originally posted by BackFire
Why not?

You don't think trying to get somebody fired is a bit of an overreaction?

You don't know Backfire very well.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You don't think trying to get somebody fired is a bit of an overreaction?

It's up to Fox whether or not she is fired, not the advertisers.

But no, I don't. She personally insulted a high school student who survived a mass shooting because she doesn't agree with his political opinions. If she were to lose her job over doing something that idiotic then that's on her and nobody else.

Originally posted by BackFire
It's up to Fox whether or not she is fired, not the advertisers.

But no, I don't. She personally insulted a high school student who survived a mass shooting because she doesn't agree with his political opinions. If she were to lose her job over doing something that idiotic then that's on her and nobody else.

Only that's not remotely true, because if she does lose her job it'll be because he used his status as a survivor to get people to go after her advertisers.

What don't you think is true? That it's up to Fox whether she is fired, or that it's her own fault if she were to lose her job? Because you are wrong - those are both factually true. She would not be losing advertisers right now if she had not attacked a school shooting survivor over his political views and the fact that he is sharing them.

Why should him being in the same building as a shooting give him special protections?

Well I don't think she should be insulting any high school student for sharing their political opinions. He has no special protections. She can say whatever she likes and reap the consequences, which is exactly what's happening. This is all on her. All she had to do was not insult a high school student. She failed, and now the high school student has gotten the better of her.

Be honest now, we both know that the advertisers wouldn't care even a little bit if he was just some random teenager. Of course he's being granted special protections because he was in the same building as a shooting.

I dunno, I think if she randomly attacked a high school student she'd probably get a similar amount of flack, maybe more so since a lot of right wingers really don't like these students.

I disagree, the only reason you're seeing this level of backlash is because people, including him are playing the victim card.

I've never supported anyone being fired for this kind of petty crap and I'm not going to start now even if I happen to agree that she was retarded for saying it.

Well she's not going to get fired. Some of her advertisers are bailing, that's a far cry from getting fired. Other advertisers will step up. At worst it's an inconvenience for her.

I agree, however his intention is clearly to get her fired.

Originally posted by Silent Master
So now you want to ban the Electoral College as well?

The electoral college was necessary back when communication technology was practically non-existent and modes of transportation were limited. States behaved more like independent entities in a loose partnership, and one's state was more apart of one's identity than it is today. The electoral college made it a fairer partnership for smaller states to participate in.

Today, advances in communication, information, and transportation technologies have changed the way we interact and view the world, including our own country. The 50-state Union has been solidified. Total population sizes and major centers of population are different. Politics and culture are different. The electoral college today is unnecessary, and seems more like another form of gerrymandering.

I'd be in favor of doing away with the electoral college, and allowing popular vote to be the deciding factor in elections and law-making.

Lol @ SMs whining.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I agree, however his intention is clearly to get her fired.

Maybe. Who cares? It's not really up to him, it's up to Fox to fire her, and it's up to the advertisers if they want to continue supporting someone who acted the way she did.

I think it's more likely the kid just kinda wants to give her shit. Probably doesn't really care if she is fired or not.

@EI
As long as you're aware that if that ever happened. Politicians would end up doing almost all of their campaigning in high-density areas and at best would just pretend to care about everywhere else.

Originally posted by Silent Master
@EI
As long as you're aware that if that ever happened. Politicians would end up doing almost all of their campaigning in high-density areas and at best would just pretend to care about everywhere else.

They do that now, as it is. Internet, TV, and radio eliminate the need to be physically present at campaign rallies to be informed about the candidates and their platforms, anyhow.

Dissolving the electoral college and making every vote count equally may even encourage more people to actually vote, especially in states where there is a heavy political leaning one way or the other.

It also may discourage people in low to medium population centers from voting. but if you believe it'll be good for the country. go for it.

Not like it could make things much worse. I mean look at who is currently in the WH.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It also may discourage people in low to medium population centers from voting. but if you believe it'll be good for the country. go for it.

Not like it could make things much worse. I mean look at who is currently in the WH.


Why would it discourage them from voting if every single vote counts, and counts as much as anyone else's vote? Even major cities which are typically thought of as either politically liberal or conservative have their fair share of voters who don't fit the norm.

California is a great example of this. It's a huge state, with many very different regions and cultures. While the state as a whole is often thought of as the land of free-loving hippies, there are shit loads of conservative voters there. They're just not the majority. Under the electoral college, their votes don't mean dick, because California has pretty much been guaranteed to be a blue state for the last three decades or so. The same is true for liberal voters in red states, like Alabama or West Virginia.

I sure as hell didn't feel the need to vote when I still lived in L.A., because I was positive Obama would win California with or without my vote. I feel much more pressure to vote now that I live in a swing-state.

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