The Appealment Of the 2nd Amendment

Started by Emperordmb20 pages

I mean shit I could maybe understand it if someone else did it in his defense, but imagine having the ****ing ego that someone insults you and you immediately call for everyone to boycott them.

That's not Hogg standing up for his principles and "changing the world," that's him being vindictive over an insult.

It's much more egregious an insult when Hogg compares Marco Rubio to the ****ing school shooter.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I mean shit I could maybe understand it if someone else did it in his defense, but imagine having the ****ing ego that someone insults you and you immediately call for everyone to boycott them.

That's not Hogg standing up for his principles and "changing the world," that's him being vindictive

Vindictive?

These kids survived a massacre in which 17 of their classmates and teachers were killed, and another 17 were wounded...

Their shooter was able to legally purchase a semi-automatic rifle at 18 years of age, in spite of a history of behavioral issues (including making death threats), prejudiced and extremist views, and psychological issues...

The good guy with a gun did sweet **** all for them during the rampage....

...and people like Laura Ingraham want to paint them as idiots because they disagree with their ideas concerning the current gun purchasing and possession laws? She deserves to be dropped by advertisers.

What ***** these people are. May they someday un**** themselves.

Also yes she is criticizing something he was saying, she was criticizing his assumption that he didn't get into certain colleges because he was being politically targeted.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Vindictive?

These kids survived a massacre in which 17 of their classmates and teachers were killed, and another 17 were wounded...

Their shooter was able to legally purchase a semi-automatic rifle at 18 years of age, in spite of a history of behavioral issues (including making death threats), prejudiced and extremist views, and psychological issues...

The good guy with a gun did sweet **** all for them during the rampage....

...and people like Laura Ingraham want to paint them as idiots because they disagree with their ideas concerning the current gun purchasing and possession laws?

What ***** these people are. May they someday un**** themselves.


I'm sorry, if you call for the boycott of someone because they insulted you personally, you're vindictive. It's extremely petty and an overreaction.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Vindictive?

These kids survived a massacre in which 17 of their classmates and teachers were killed, and another 17 were wounded...

Their shooter was able to legally purchase a semi-automatic rifle at 18 years of age, in spite of a history of behavioral issues (including making death threats), prejudiced and extremist views, and psychological issues...

The good guy with a gun did sweet **** all for them during the rampage....

...and people like Laura Ingraham want to paint them as idiots because they disagree with their ideas concerning the current gun purchasing and possession laws? She deserves to be dropped by advertisers.

What ***** these people are. May they someday un**** themselves.

Why does being in the same building as a shooting matter?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I'm sorry, if you call for the boycott of someone because they insulted you personally, you're vindictive. It's extremely petty and an overreaction.

She questioned his intelligence, and by extension, his character, because of his very vocal positions on the current gun laws. How quickly it went from, "OMG, those poor children..." to "**** those nazi/commie kids. They're just a bunch of young and stupid idiots who don't know what they're talking about." If there's a Bizzaro-esque opposite of virtue-signaling, there's a good example of it.

Perhaps it is a little vindictive of him to call for a boycott of her show, but it's definitely justified.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Why does being in the same building as a shooting matter?

I'm not really sure what you're asking here, but I sure hope you're not suggesting he is not in any way a victim of a traumatic event simply because he wasn't shot or killed in the massacre...

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
She questioned his intelligence, and by extension, his character, because of his very vocal positions on the current gun laws. How quickly it went from, "OMG, those poor children..." to "**** those nazi/commie kids. They're just a bunch of young and stupid idiots who don't know what they're talking about." If there's a Bizzaro-esque opposite of virtue-signaling, there's a good example of it.

Perhaps it is a little vindictive of him to call for a boycott of her show, but it's definitely justified.


Yes it shifted because there's a difference between being the victim of a tragedy whose completely innocent, and being the victim of the tragedy who steps into the public sphere and starts to try and wield influence.

When you become a public figure and start casting gross aspersions at the people who disagree with you politically, you invite the same in reverse.

Has he ever said anything that shows he's knowledgeable on of issue of gun control?

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
I'm not really sure what you're asking here, but I sure hope you're not suggesting he is not in any way a victim of a traumatic event simply because he wasn't shot or killed in the massacre...

Three questions

1) Was he shot
2) Was he shot at
3) Did he see anyone shot

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Also yes she is criticizing something he was saying, she was criticizing his assumption that he didn't get into certain colleges because he was being politically targeted.

He didn't say that. In fact when the interviewer asked him if he thought that was the case he flatly denied it. Fake news.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yes it shifted because there's a difference between being the victim of a tragedy whose completely innocent, and being the victim of the tragedy who steps into the public sphere and starts to try and wield influence.

When you become a public figure and start casting gross aspersions at the people who disagree with you politically, you invite the same in reverse.


What are these gross aspersions he's cast on those who disagree with him politically?

Hogg, Gonzalez, their classmates, and their teachers were victims of gun violence in yet another school shooting. The shooter was able to legally purchase the semi-automatic rifle he used during the massacre, in spite of his history of menacing and other behavioral issues, and psychological issues. The good guy with a gun completely failed them by choosing to preserve his own safety by not entering the school grounds and engaging the shooter. As far as I know, they want stronger gun control laws requiring tougher prerequisites to purchasing guns, and the outlawing of semi-automatic rifles.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Three questions

1) Was he shot
2) Was he shot at
3) Did he see anyone shot


How is any of this relevant?

He was in the school while an active shooter was killing as many people as he could. It's possible he knew someone who was shot or killed, and even if he didn't, at the very least, his life and his friends' lives were in danger somewhere they least expected people to be dying. Luckily for him, he was not harmed himself.

Now tell me something like 9/11 wasn't traumatic for anyone who wasn't hurt or killed in the planes or towers...

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
How is any of this relevant?

He was in the school while an active shooter was killing as many people as he could. It's possible he knew someone who was shot or killed, and even if he didn't, at the very least his life and his friends' lives were in danger somewhere they least expected them to be. Luckily for him, he was not harmed himself.

Now tell me something like 9/11 wasn't traumatic for anyone who wasn't hurt or killed in the planes or towers...

Does being in the same building as a shooting grant you some magical knowledge?

^I think it should give you a right to an opinion though.

It does, but if you step into the public sphere you are no longer sacrosanct from criticism

Agreed. If you voice your opinions publicly then you have to at the very least expect people to counter you and your stance.

The way I see it, its easy for a sociopath like Silent Master or even most politicians to just ignore mass shootings because they don't affect them. They're things that happen to other people so they don't trigger any kind of empathetic response. Someone who's actually lived through it however knows the real impact they have. They've lost people they know. They've seen the consequences first hand. They have a true perspective on the issue that gives their voices weight. Their opinion is far more informed than a worm like SM who knows technical details about guns but not what the actual consequences are like.

Idol was bang on with the 9/11 connection. Try and tell me a 9/11 survivor would get this kind of response.

Originally posted by samhain
^I think it should give you a right to an opinion though.

Everyone has the right to an opinion.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Everyone has the right to an opinion.

STFU you sociopath